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When men search for a woman, what they search for is a woman. Not any woman, but still a woman. A normal human being capable of empathy, that behaves civilised and signals to the man that she cares about him.
When women search for a man, they search for the man. And they also search for one of the men. They believe that amongst men there is this upper class that is deserving of everything and the rest of the men deserve nothing. And that amongst these upper class men there is that one man who was specifically born just for her. The former is female nature, the latter they picked up from Hollywood.
Men in the 21st century live in the real world. They are looking for another human soul to share their affection with.
Women in the 21st century live in a fantasy world. They create a discriminatory picture of men that divides them into 2 classes that is not reflective of the real world.
Any positivist normie would say "to complain is easy, but you are not making it any better if you don't work on the problem." Ironic because as positivists you are not working to solve problems, you are working to avoid problems and blindly hope that you won't be affected by them. Let's have a genuine look at the problem then.
I want you for a short moment to think about a very rough list of traits that men and women want from the opposite sex in your opinion. This is mine.
Women want: Aggressive, violent, dominant, masculine face, muscles, cunning, wealthy.
Men want: Virgin, loyal, not obese, not feminist.
You may or may not agree with these traits. My point here is if you compare such lists of traits to reality then it becomes clear quickly that whatever is considered feminine is no longer part of the general traits of women and the same for men with masculinity.
Women and tradcucks complain all the time that men are no longer "manly" enough for women. But where does the definition for what constitutes manly even come from? It comes from women. Those are the people whose affection you as a male are trying to gain. The same is true vice versa. People can now complain all day about how unmanly men are and how unwomanly women are, but that does not stop the trend. It continues along that path.
You can take 2 committed stances now. Either you support the trend or you don't.
If as a woman you don't because you like men who are 'manly' or masculine, then you as a woman have to fulfil your share of what constitutes being womanly or feminine. But the woman will make demands for the man to change, the man for the woman to make changes. It doesn't get anywhere.
The question is therefore: Where does this whole trend begin?
If you genuinely wanted the root of the problem to be fixed you would ask this question otherwise the problem can never be fixed.
Case 1 - Women want men to be manly
Most men when puberty hits are not overly aggressive, violent and dominant. We can attribute this fault to men. Men should have just started bashing peoples' heads in and disregarding society and its laws like other male bullies do. And at the same age women fuck the most violent men ASAP, a fault that can be attributed to women since they know the value of virginity to men but still choose to lose their virginity extremely early on in life.
In a society who should change their behavior in this case? Very obviously women if things ought to play out in a civilised manner. But if we want to assign the blame to men it means to want to destroy society in this case. To want men to bash each others' heads in and go on killing rampages. The term genocidal maniacs in association with women comes to mind again.
What can the lesser dominant men do in this situation? They can improve their looks, work out for muscles, work on their assertiveness, gather wealth. But nothing they do can fix the women. They have already lost their virginity. They have already given their promise of loyalty to someone else. They no longer qualify for what it means to be womanly or feminine and it is irreversible. Their virginity can not be restored.
Case 2 - Women don't want men to be manly
Same situation, men are not overly aggressive, violent and dominant. This time we can not attribute any fault to men because men are acting in accordance with what women demand which is to not act manly. We can also not attribute any fault to women for sleeping around in their early years exclusively with bullies because in a progressive society women don't have to act like women any longer to attract men. Such would be the expectations on both sides.
If the criteria of case 2 aligned with our reality women would accept and tolerate men who are not being overly manly. But very obviously they don't, they reject such men. If women were to claim that case 2 reflects our society then they should stop telling men that they have to change and become more manly. The fault in case 2 lies with womens' intolerance towards unmanly men. If case 1 reflects our society then we can argue that men are at fault for not being genocidal maniacs the same way women are.
TL;DR: Women are responsible for men not being 'manly'. Women would have to change if they really wanted such men. But since they already had a taste of chad, they are fine with the situation as is.
When women search for a man, they search for the man. And they also search for one of the men. They believe that amongst men there is this upper class that is deserving of everything and the rest of the men deserve nothing. And that amongst these upper class men there is that one man who was specifically born just for her. The former is female nature, the latter they picked up from Hollywood.
Men in the 21st century live in the real world. They are looking for another human soul to share their affection with.
Women in the 21st century live in a fantasy world. They create a discriminatory picture of men that divides them into 2 classes that is not reflective of the real world.
Any positivist normie would say "to complain is easy, but you are not making it any better if you don't work on the problem." Ironic because as positivists you are not working to solve problems, you are working to avoid problems and blindly hope that you won't be affected by them. Let's have a genuine look at the problem then.
I want you for a short moment to think about a very rough list of traits that men and women want from the opposite sex in your opinion. This is mine.
Women want: Aggressive, violent, dominant, masculine face, muscles, cunning, wealthy.
Men want: Virgin, loyal, not obese, not feminist.
You may or may not agree with these traits. My point here is if you compare such lists of traits to reality then it becomes clear quickly that whatever is considered feminine is no longer part of the general traits of women and the same for men with masculinity.
Women and tradcucks complain all the time that men are no longer "manly" enough for women. But where does the definition for what constitutes manly even come from? It comes from women. Those are the people whose affection you as a male are trying to gain. The same is true vice versa. People can now complain all day about how unmanly men are and how unwomanly women are, but that does not stop the trend. It continues along that path.
You can take 2 committed stances now. Either you support the trend or you don't.
If as a woman you don't because you like men who are 'manly' or masculine, then you as a woman have to fulfil your share of what constitutes being womanly or feminine. But the woman will make demands for the man to change, the man for the woman to make changes. It doesn't get anywhere.
The question is therefore: Where does this whole trend begin?
If you genuinely wanted the root of the problem to be fixed you would ask this question otherwise the problem can never be fixed.
Case 1 - Women want men to be manly
Most men when puberty hits are not overly aggressive, violent and dominant. We can attribute this fault to men. Men should have just started bashing peoples' heads in and disregarding society and its laws like other male bullies do. And at the same age women fuck the most violent men ASAP, a fault that can be attributed to women since they know the value of virginity to men but still choose to lose their virginity extremely early on in life.
In a society who should change their behavior in this case? Very obviously women if things ought to play out in a civilised manner. But if we want to assign the blame to men it means to want to destroy society in this case. To want men to bash each others' heads in and go on killing rampages. The term genocidal maniacs in association with women comes to mind again.
What can the lesser dominant men do in this situation? They can improve their looks, work out for muscles, work on their assertiveness, gather wealth. But nothing they do can fix the women. They have already lost their virginity. They have already given their promise of loyalty to someone else. They no longer qualify for what it means to be womanly or feminine and it is irreversible. Their virginity can not be restored.
Case 2 - Women don't want men to be manly
Same situation, men are not overly aggressive, violent and dominant. This time we can not attribute any fault to men because men are acting in accordance with what women demand which is to not act manly. We can also not attribute any fault to women for sleeping around in their early years exclusively with bullies because in a progressive society women don't have to act like women any longer to attract men. Such would be the expectations on both sides.
If the criteria of case 2 aligned with our reality women would accept and tolerate men who are not being overly manly. But very obviously they don't, they reject such men. If women were to claim that case 2 reflects our society then they should stop telling men that they have to change and become more manly. The fault in case 2 lies with womens' intolerance towards unmanly men. If case 1 reflects our society then we can argue that men are at fault for not being genocidal maniacs the same way women are.
TL;DR: Women are responsible for men not being 'manly'. Women would have to change if they really wanted such men. But since they already had a taste of chad, they are fine with the situation as is.