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It's Over Failed date

@Simulacrasimulation I get it, hypergamy is ridiculous right now, dating app culture and social media have raised the standards of beauty. Whilst I don't fully understand the blackpill, I get that it's based on genetics. The reason I scored this date is because of my eyes so from the front facing I can take a reasonable selfie. But from the side I look horrific due to my big nose which resembles a pelican's beak. My nose is the reason why I'm rejected along with my manlet height (5'5) but my nose portrays me as a freak show as most people haven't witnessed a nose this big. I'm also highly introverted, my characteristics are borderline autism but mostly anxiety based. I have a brother who is a twisted sociopath but gets laid left right and centre because he's a thug. There's no justice in this world, how an abusive low life like that gets all the attention yet decent kind hearted guys get nothing but suffering.

You were able to get past the chatting on app phase?
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ye I dunno how as I'm not even a paid subscriber, I just randomly messaged someone and she responded. 9/10 there is no response, not even a match except bots or overseas scams who catfish desperate lonely men. Tinder is the worst, I've never once got a match on there, it's almost impossible on that app to get a response. It's essentially an app for perfect Love Island models. So I use apps like POF or FreeDating but even them it's like pissing in the wind to get any sort of luck. I recently created a profile on Badoo so we'll see how that goes, it's just fuckin demoralising to be a sub human on these apps. I went cold turkey on these apps for a long while as I was so fed up of chasing that dream oneitis that never exists for losers in life.
 
@Simulacrasimulation I get it, hypergamy is ridiculous right now, dating app culture and social media have raised the standards of beauty. Whilst I don't fully understand the blackpill, I get that it's based on genetics. The reason I scored this date is because of my eyes so from the front facing I can take a reasonable selfie. But from the side I look horrific due to my big nose which resembles a pelican's beak. My nose is the reason why I'm rejected along with my manlet height (5'5) but my nose portrays me as a freak show as most people haven't witnessed a nose this big. I'm also highly introverted, my characteristics are borderline autism but mostly anxiety based. I have a brother who is a twisted sociopath but gets laid left right and centre because he's a thug. There's no justice in this world, how an abusive low life like that gets all the attention yet decent kind hearted guys get nothing but suffering.


ye I dunno how as I'm not even a paid subscriber, I just randomly messaged someone and she responded. 9/10 there is no response, not even a match except bots or overseas scams who catfish desperate lonely men. Tinder is the worst, I've never once got a match on there, it's almost impossible on that app to get a response. It's essentially an app for perfect Love Island models. So I use apps like POF or FreeDating but even them it's like pissing in the wind to get any sort of luck. I recently created a profile on Badoo so we'll see how that goes, it's just fuckin demoralising to be a sub human on these apps. I went cold turkey on these apps for a long while as I was so fed up of chasing that dream oneitis that never exists for losers in life.
The side on thing is a myth and in real life no one is obsessed with your profile, except for looksmax users if you look good from the front this is what people see, eyes is what people value highly, but thelwer third is VERY IMPORTANT EG JAW, but i fear you may be a lower third cel, as a big nose is not a big nose at all, it is related to the size of your upper and lower jaws.

The nose being large is an illusion, the nose APPEARS LARGE, BECAUSE THE UPPER AND LOWER JAWS, THE MAXILLA AND MANDIBLE IS TOO SMALL AND UNDERDEVELOPED AND NOT ADVANCED ENOUGH, IF THE JAWS WERE MOVED FORWARD THE NOSE WOULD MAGICALLY APPEAR TO BE THE RIGHT SIZE, BUT ITS VOLUME HAS NOT CHANGED, EVERYTHING AROUND IT HAS CHANGED.

This along with five foot 5 would be bad for dating, and is sadly enough to get you shut out and only able to date hambeasts

I would say avoid online dating, but the problem is THERE IS VERY LITTLE ELSE, THERE ARE NO OTHER SOLUTIONS TO MEET NEW WOMEN, IT SEEMS LIKE A FUCKING JOKE THE TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN WHERE EVERY ANGLE IS FENCED OFF AND WE ARE IN SME KIND OF TRAP.

WATCH THIS IT EXPLAINS


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rkxbp5F-gg
 
You should of replied '' I didn't either''
 
The side on thing is a myth and in real life no one is obsessed with your profile, except for looksmax users if you look good from the front this is what people see, eyes is what people value highly, but thelwer third is VERY IMPORTANT EG JAW, but i fear you may be a lower third cel, as a big nose is not a big nose at all, it is related to the size of your upper and lower jaws.

The nose being large is an illusion, the nose APPEARS LARGE, BECAUSE THE UPPER AND LOWER JAWS, THE MAXILLA AND MANDIBLE IS TOO SMALL AND UNDERDEVELOPED AND NOT ADVANCED ENOUGH, IF THE JAWS WERE MOVED FORWARD THE NOSE WOULD MAGICALLY APPEAR TO BE THE RIGHT SIZE, BUT ITS VOLUME HAS NOT CHANGED, EVERYTHING AROUND IT HAS CHANGED.

This along with five foot 5 would be bad for dating, and is sadly enough to get you shut out and only able to date hambeasts

I would say avoid online dating, but the problem is THERE IS VERY LITTLE ELSE, THERE ARE NO OTHER SOLUTIONS TO MEET NEW WOMEN, IT SEEMS LIKE A FUCKING JOKE THE TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN WHERE EVERY ANGLE IS FENCED OFF AND WE ARE IN SME KIND OF TRAP.

WATCH THIS IT EXPLAINS


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rkxbp5F-gg


Interesting, on that basis my insecurity of my nose has been exaggerated by my anxiety. Maybe my manlet size is more of a factor of why I don't fit in as society treats manlets like children for some reason. My personality can also be perceived as autistic, some people have even suggested I may have asperger's as I'm highly introverted but I think it can be misconstrued as extreme shyness and social anxiety which I believe to be the case with me.

It's also worth noting that our perceived imperfections are more glaring up close. Selfie's therefore create a heightened perception as the image is magnified, in reality these flaws are never as big as we perceive them to be by contrast to what our selfies portray. That being said I do have an unusually wide nose that's hooked. In video's or selfie's I look like some fucked up bird like creature from the side.

On the plus side, I have nice eyes as mentioned, slim physique and a big dick so that's something. But my flaws undermine this, my biggest issue is I'm a serial recluse, for most of my life I've shut myself away in my bedroom outside of work commitments. I think this applies to a lot of people, being a social outcast is so detrimental to our wellbeing and connection to society.
 
paying for a foids meal is just plain stupidity i hope you never do that again. you dont sound ugly to me.
 
ye I dunno how as I'm not even a paid subscriber, I just randomly messaged someone and she responded. 9/10 there is no response, not even a match except bots or overseas scams who catfish desperate lonely men. Tinder is the worst, I've never once got a match on there, it's almost impossible on that app to get a response. It's essentially an app for perfect Love Island models. So I use apps like POF or FreeDating but even them it's like pissing in the wind to get any sort of luck. I recently created a profile on Badoo so we'll see how that goes, it's just fuckin demoralising to be a sub human on these apps. I went cold turkey on these apps for a long while as I was so fed up of chasing that dream oneitis that never exists for losers in life.

I've used the free version mostly but the last time I used the gold membership because I wanted to see if it would help. And yeah it's like you said over 90% of the time there's no reply, rest of the time they either unmatch immediately like they made a mistake or it's a bot shilling some dumb bimbo's onlyfans. Tinder has been the one I've gotten matches on so far. Bumble, Hinge and POF not so much. This last go around of Tinder has made me decide I've just not suited for dating apps because it seems like it's for those love island type people. Badoo seemed like one of those scammy apps so I just used it for about a week and deleted it. There's also Boo which is marketed towards introvert but it's not strictly a dating app, deleted that as well. In conclusion I'm swearing off dating apps for now, possibly forever. If it doesn't happen organically in person then so be it to be honest. One of my side copes now is looking at escort ads on vivastreet trying to pick out the fake ones.
 
I'm not a chad, this date was the 1st I've ever had and I got rejected by a sub 5, that doesn't mean I'm a fuckin fakecel. That further emphasises how much of a loser I am.
I’ve been called ugly to my face my a 2/10, you aren’t built for these truecel streets cuh
 
Hopefully he learned from this mistake
 
State of this site, datehavers.is
Does it really matter when he was rejected afterwards? If he was a fakecel, she would have continued to keep in touch with him and take it to the next level which is a relationship.
 
Interesting, on that basis my insecurity of my nose has been exaggerated by my anxiety. Maybe my manlet size is more of a factor of why I don't fit in as society treats manlets like children for some reason. My personality can also be perceived as autistic, some people have even suggested I may have asperger's as I'm highly introverted but I think it can be misconstrued as extreme shyness and social anxiety which I believe to be the case with me.

It's also worth noting that our perceived imperfections are more glaring up close. Selfie's therefore create a heightened perception as the image is magnified, in reality these flaws are never as big as we perceive them to be by contrast to what our selfies portray. That being said I do have an unusually wide nose that's hooked. In video's or selfie's I look like some fucked up bird like creature from the side.

On the plus side, I have nice eyes as mentioned, slim physique and a big dick so that's something. But my flaws undermine this, my biggest issue is I'm a serial recluse, for most of my life I've shut myself away in my bedroom outside of work commitments. I think this applies to a lot of people, being a social outcast is so detrimental to our wellbeing and connection to society.
Ignore selfies, everyone is using filters etc etc etc, if your posting an unfiltered image your already losing as you will "look" worse than everyone else as they are using filtered images, its a game of aesthetics.

That average witch has so many options like army jock strap guy that she mentioned,, that she runs through men on these dating apps, and if they dont meet her "requirements" she does what she did to you, moves on swipes etc.

At this point when you know the blackpill these witches are like automatons like machines, as soon as certain conditions are met they do a very very predictable action, move on same program, same executable, same again, repeat.

ITS LOOKS PATHETIC, the one way you can fuck her up is SIMPLY STATE THIS TO HER FACE OR MESSAGE, REVEAL HER WHOLE CODE TO HER FACE, THAT SHE IS A DRONE REPEATING THE SAME ACTIONS AS MILLIONS OF OTHER WOMEN BEING PROGRAMMED BY THICK TOK, SNAP ETC ETC ETC SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT SHE HAS THE IQ OF WASP IN A SEA OF HONEY, GETTING FUCKED UP THE ASS BY THE BIGGEST BEE IN THE WORLD.

At this point im just straight out lampooning them even before they open their mouths, because you can tell a mile off a ho, from her dress, makeup and even one line of conversation, in the same way they eliminate men in 1 minute, develop your own and eliminate the wrong women in under a minute. LITERALLY DO WHAT THEY DO TO MEN, ELIMINATE THEM AFTER 1 MINUTE, IF THEY TALK, AND LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY SOCIAL MEDIA, AND TALKING TRASH, EBONICS, RAP/ AMERICAN CULTURE, GO STRAIGHT TO THEY DONT EXIST MODE AS THEY DO TO YOU, EG EVEN IN MID CONVERSATION TURN YOUR BACK AND NEVER LOOK AT THEM AGAIN.

Women ABSOLUTELY HATE GETTING PASSIVELY AGGRESSIVELY FUCKED UP, EG THE POWER MOVES OF NO EYE CONTACT, NEGATIVE NON VERBAL COMMUNICATION, THIS TRIGGERS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM.

Its a pure numbers game, if they are social media whores, THE CHANCES OF THEM "LIKING YOU", ARE WORSE THAN A LOTTERY WIN, YOU LOSE LITERALLY NOTHING BY ELIMINATING THEM, AS YOU WERE NEVER IN THE RACE, YOU WERE NEVER EVEN COMPETING.

If you preempt this move of theirs and go over the top and start fucking with them, IT COMPLETELY TRIGGERS THEM AND THEIR ONLY OPTION IS GHOSTING BECAUSE THEY DONT GET THIS OFTEN, DONT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS ANGLE, AND ARE PISS POOR AT EXCHANGES VERBALLY.
 
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I paid £20 for both meals
What a waste of money brocel.

Unless you're a chad, you'll have to pay at least 60% of dating cost. This is the reason i think it'd be way better to rot as an truecel rather than buy a "love" for your money even if you are fucking rich as oil tycoon sandnigger. What you're doing is a prostitution, not sharing love with a foid. I'd even recommend you to escortmaxxing. At least, they'll let you shag them.
 
@Simulacrasimulation I did this exact thing to a 17 year old female staff member recently. I ignored her at work then all of a sudden she started questioning why I'm suddenly being ignorant towards her. She's the type of person who facetimes her besties whilst on duty and slags you off the minute you leave a room. All fake nicey nice to your face then gives you the hostile treatment. I've noticed people are worse amongst their besties. They're so fuckin loud and obnoxious, as soon they enter a room they're singing, shouting.

I'm tired of being patronised by most women, its always in a patronising tone, talking down to me like a child. I'm either ignored or spoken down to like an alien. Even the older staff treat me like this, I've never fitted in anywhere.

What a waste of money brocel.

Unless you're a chad, you'll have to pay at least 60% of dating cost. This is the reason i think it'd be way better to rot as an truecel rather than buy a "love" for your money even if you are fucking rich as oil tycoon sandnigger. What you're doing is a prostitution, not sharing love with a foid. I'd even recommend you to escortmaxxing. At least, they'll let you shag them.
ah well its only money at end of the day, it was expensive I admit £15 for 2 meals. It was nothing special either, fish chips and mushy peas. Escorts are tempting but I've heard some horror stories. There was a guy in the news who met an escort at his apartment, upon arrival she asked for more cash upfront that wasn't agreed. The guy had no money due to his drug addiction, then things escalated after an argument. She attacked him then he grabbed a knife and stabbed her repeatedly. The guy was sentenced to a few years in prison.
 
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@Simulacrasimulation I did this exact thing to a 17 year old female staff member recently. I ignored her at work then all of a sudden she started questioning why I'm suddenly being ignorant towards her. She's the type of person who facetimes her besties whilst on duty and slags you off the minute you leave a room. All fake nicey nice to your face then gives you the hostile treatment. I've noticed people are worse amongst their besties. They're so fuckin loud and obnoxious, as soon they enter a room they're singing, shouting.

I'm tired of being patronised by most women, its always in a patronising tone, talking down to me like a child. I'm either ignored or spoken down to like an alien. Even the older staff treat me like this, I've never fitted in anywhere.


ah well its only money at end of the day, it was expensive I admit £15 for 2 meals. It was nothing special either, fish chips and mushy peas. Escorts are tempting but I've heard some horror stories. There was a guy in the news who met an escort at his apartment, upon arrival she asked for more cash upfront that wasn't agreed. The guy had no money due to his drug addiction, then things escalated after an argument. She attacked him then he grabbed a knife and stabbed her repeatedly. The guy was sentenced to a few years in prison.
so its ignoring for theeee but not for meeee TEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEE

The problem is now im much more blunt, ill just come right out and say if you behave like this to me YOUR GOING TO GET IT RIGHT BACK LOVE STRAIGHT TO HER FACE, SO THERE IS NO TALKING DOWN OF HERRR DERRRR

The loud thing is like mansplaining its a show of dominance socially we can take over the room and be obnoxious as possible AND YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND TELL US TO STOP OR GET US TO STOP

Almost every action from a normie is a show of power or a play of power and or dominance, its pathetic and its all posturing nonsense with nothing behind it, all you have to do is be assertive and go over the top and call their bluff, I even do it to my own family and they have mostly stopped talking, as soon as they try and gaslight i shut them down before they finish.

This is why im gymaxxed and im not five foot 2 im five foot 10, 15 and a half stone, and not fat, so can be intimidating, as an incel there is no winning, its how badly you lose, I am in my 30s now and am calling bullshit on everything normies do and just stand straight up to them at my job socially etc.

This is why as you have seen i go through a lot of jobs because YOU ARE ALWAYS MADE OUT TO BE THE BAD GUY EVEN WHEN YOUR IN THE RIGHT AS AN INCEL
 
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OK just incredible
 
I'm just so tired of being ghosted, they tell you 1 thing to your face then the second they're behind their keyboard, your either ghosted or blocked. They don't even give you the courtesy of an explanation, just straight ghosted. They read your text then completely disregard it.

Fuckin tired of this shit man. Tired of being used and abused. I guess I had a lucky escape because her personality was very strict, she literally lectured me about living with my mum in my 30s. Women are obsessed with independence. Not everyone has an elite SAS mindset in life because mental health and life circumstances, yet she condemned me for this flaw in my character.

If they can't accept us for who we are then it's over before it began.
 
Brutally fucking over. I wish you and I and all the brocels reincarnate as chads.
 
So men in the 4-5/10 range are FUCKED AND NOW HAVE TO RESORT TO DATING AND "MARRYING" 2-3/10S

lololoolol what a joke it is, EVEN TYPING THIS SOUNDS RIDICULOUS BUT THATS THE REALITY
Yes, that's the dating market today if you want a woman that will at least treat you decently.
 
DATEHAVER REEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Greycels am i right? :lul::lul:
 
They say its the hope that kills you, this is what a date does to you. As soon as they see you in person they've mentally checked out and renegaded those sweet nothings they promised you on whatsapp.

People will tell you what they want you to believe rather than what they truly feel. The second the see me in the flesh is the second its over. My big nose and manlet height is a shock to their system. This is why she fuckin ghosted me the second I got home. They don't have the balls to tell you to your face so they hide behind a keyboard. Fuck this life man, even if we somehow score a date its over before it began.
 
You paid for her date............. why.......
 
You paid for her date............. why.......
That wasn't my intention, she even said beforehand that she prefers to pay herself. Then we got to the restaurant and she put me on the spot, asking me if I'll pay now then she'll pay next time which I now know was bullshit as there never was a next time.

She paid for the coffee herself but I was asked to pay for the meal in front of the barman, so I reluctantly agreed but I knew I'd been cucked when I saw the prices. £10 for fish and chip with mushy peas is ridiculous, and I got 2 lots. I'll never get that money back as she's ghosted me as expected. I was taken advantage of which is nothing new as I've been used before in my life.
 
gtfo fakecel
Well no, he's still technically an incel. It's possible it could've been a blind date or she didn't realize how ugly/ or short he was until the date commenced.
 
That wasn't my intention, she even said beforehand that she prefers to pay herself. Then we got to the restaurant and she put me on the spot, asking me if I'll pay now then she'll pay next time which I now know was bullshit as there never was a next time.

She paid for the coffee herself but I was asked to pay for the meal in front of the barman, so I reluctantly agreed but I knew I'd been cucked when I saw the prices. £10 for fish and chip with mushy peas is ridiculous, and I got 2 lots. I'll never get that money back as she's ghosted me as expected. I was taken advantage of which is nothing new as I've been used before in my life.
Fuck sorry to hear that.
 
That wasn't my intention, she even said beforehand that she prefers to pay herself. Then we got to the restaurant and she put me on the spot, asking me if I'll pay now then she'll pay next time which I now know was bullshit as there never was a next time.

She paid for the coffee herself but I was asked to pay for the meal in front of the barman, so I reluctantly agreed but I knew I'd been cucked when I saw the prices. £10 for fish and chip with mushy peas is ridiculous, and I got 2 lots. I'll never get that money back as she's ghosted me as expected. I was taken advantage of which is nothing new as I've been used before in my life.
You live and you learn.
 
Today she got back to me and used me once again. She tricked me by telling me to come her house for 9.30, I got ready only to be completely ghosted, not a single reply back hours later, I simply asked her if she still wants me to come her house then she ignored me. Why the fuck tell me something only to take the piss out of me, this is cruel beyond belief.

And she put me down again for my lack of independence. This person does not seem normal at all, her behaviour is deranged, after ghosting me again the other day, she randomly sent me a wall of text about her house that she was painting. She ghosts me at the drop of a hat, then randomly sends creepy stuff to me wtf. I could tell that there was something off about her when I met her, just a weird vibe. I honestly believe this woman could be sociopathic.

But I think I know why she messed me about, its because chad is probably texting her instead. I was most likely a plan B, this is why she has ghosted me for no fuckin reason after telling me to meet at 9.30, I'm tired of being used and rejected time and again, it never began :feelstrash:.
 
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At least you tried ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
My nose is the reason why I'm rejected along with my manlet height (5'5)
Rough.

PoF is owned by the same company that owns Tinder; Match group is taking full advantage of globalism, feminism, and mechanization. There's this strange belief that putting your ugly pictures up onto a profile on y dating app will give you more success than your profile on x dating app, but it's really not the case. The mean age on Tinder is probably lower than other dating apps because it's the most well known dating app, and so might be the only dating app young and naiive Becky knows about. (Well, that might be changing. Yubo is bascially a Tinder for <18, but not explicit that it is.)

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