Blackpill Free love and abolishing the nuclear family - a Marxist concept

[AsiaCel]

Some people may not know about that, but a common belief associated with Marxists is that they support the current state of dating market, which is rooted in free love and abolishing of the nuclear family system.

The general Marxist view is actually very similar to the mainstream liberal values today - LGBT, hookups, free love...Despite the fact that Marxists claim that free love may not be polygamy, or that it promotes promiscuity, you cannot deny biology and the mateguarding mechanism was put in place for a reason.

Let's review two sources today....One from a newspaper associated with the communist party of Britain (now defunct) and other from Reddit.

‘Free love’ or ‘family values’ — is there a Marxist view?

morningstaronline.co.uk

But Marxists don’t have a collective “position” on people’s personal relationships or domestic arrangements, as long as they are entered into freely, don’t involve violence, coercion, corruption, exploitation or greed, and don’t damage anyone else

Love, in particular, is (arguably) beyond the remit of any Marxist analysis. People fall in love, fall out of love; two (or more) people get together, and while their relationship may be of interest to others, it is no particular business of a Marxist.

Despite the author's claim that Marxist does not have particular business in family view/"love", their position is inherently contradictory to the traditional family unit

And for the much lesser time that Marxism and communism have been around, they have been castigated for (amongst other things) belittling this hallowed unit and for promoting promiscuity.

The reality is a little more complex. “The family” today corresponds probably less than it ever has in the past to the supposedly ideal nuclear family.

This particularly applies to the status of women and also to same sex/non-binary relationships, whether sanctioned by law or not.

Marxism is, above everything else, a dialectical and materialist examination of how humans live and how we sustain and reproduce ourselves — the production and reproduction of human existence. Social institutions (including the family) are intimately linked to these two elements.

Word salad. Here we see the slipping of the author's bias.

In 1847 Engels wrote that communism would “transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene. It can do this since it does away with private property and educates children on a communal basis, and in this way removes the two bases of traditional marriage — the dependence rooted in private property, of the women on the man, and of the children on the parents.”

Immediately after the Bolshevik revolution Alexandra Kollontai and Nadezhda Krupskaya (Lenin’s wife) began to elaborate a revolutionary vision for women, based on a code of equality and “a withering away of the family.”

They saw the traditional family as an agent of oppression under capitalism, which “has placed on the shoulders of the woman a burden which crushes her: it has made her a wage worker without having lessened her cares as a housekeeper and mother.”

That oppression would be transformed with its abolition, not by sending women “back to the home” (something that happened in Britain after the second world war when women had occupied roles previously regarded as the province of men) but by economic, social and sexual equality.

Under socialism, they declared, the patriarchal family would become a “legacy from the past” to be replaced by “free love.”

This is contradictory, another common characteristic from Marxists. No, abolishing the family MAKES IT so it turns women into "wage workers", not the other way around.

Children, the elderly, and the disabled would be supported by the state; housework would be socialised and waged; and women would no longer be economically dependent on men.

The family, stripped of its social functions, would “wither away,” replaced by “free unions” based on mutual love and respect. The code aimed to provide a transitional legal framework for that short period in which legal duties and protections were still necessary.

Kollontai wrote of the need for “a new form of relation between the sexes … in place of the indissoluble marriage based on the servitude of woman, we shall see rise the free union, fortified by the love and respect of the two members of the Workers’ State equal in their rights and in their obligations.”

So, in short, a welfare system combined with free love and lack of parents, since the state takes care of things...That is actually very similar to the single mom situation today.

The family features prominently in propaganda and policy of both church and state. Everything from pensions to inheritance tax is made easier for married couples.

And for capital, the family is a unit of consumption and a site for the realisation of profit in its own right.

The reality is that the concept of the family is a fluid one, and one that is not inherently antithetical to “free” love. It has changed over time and will continue to do so.

No, the family system will not and shall not change. It is rooted in our biology to have a mom and a dad, just as wolves have their wolf pack, bears with their "mama bear" and so on. Yes, some animals have "single moms" like bears, but that is how they evolved. We were evolved to have a mother and a father. End of discussion.

Here's what ledditors have to say about this...


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/10d6tp9/quick_rundown_on_free_love_and_anarchism/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Socialism_101/comments/105qp73/what_do_marxists_mean_when_they_want_to_abolish/

There are more if you want to read, but from what we can see, Marxists are obsessed with dogmatism and ideology. To them, Marxism is a surrogate religion in place of a traditional religion.

 

[aesthetic_recon]

It is rooted in our biology to have a mom and a dad, just as wolves have their wolf pack,

fact. marxists and radical constructivists deny biology all the time.
also if communism

transforms the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene

could a child have sex with an adult? what's stopping that from happening? i'd like to hear their response

commies r pedos.

 

[AsiaCel]

Dnr

Marxism is gay leftism and socialism

Well, Marx corrupted socialism

 

[Gott _mit _uns94]

Free love and abolishing the nuclear family - a jude0 Marxist m@s0nic satanist concept,​

fixed it for u.

 

[aesthetic_recon]

Marxism is gay leftism and socialism

Well, Marx corrupted socialism

 

[Cock'nBalls]

Men created the free love thing because they thought that it meant more women for them.

could a child have sex with an adult? what's stopping that from happening? i'd like to hear their response

they thought that that was ok too, look up pedo activists and you will see that they support the free love thing too.

 

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[Saigon Depression]

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He reminds me of Castro in this commie uniform.

 

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He reminds me of Castro in this commie uniform.

 

[turdcel]

I remember when BLM, a self-admitted marxist group, had typed on their 'goals' section about how they wanted to abolish the nuclear family which is funny because the nuclear family was great for niggers than liberal feminist bullshit now

 

[CopingForBrutality]

This is a decent concept but it needs a few tweaks to account for modern context, obviously this 'free love' thing has gotten out of control and what should really happen is that sex should be banned altogether and replaced with realistic sex bots.

In an advanced society, sex should be fully banned and the only legal sex would be done through realistic AI bots, procreation should be done through artificial wombs utilising eugenic principles and children would be raised by state run military schools. Attaining houses and otherwise forms of wealth will be based on meritocracy, once the individual dies the state can sell off his assets instead of it being inherited by a family member under the nuclear family model.

Under this system it is fair for all and improves society's genetic capabilities at the same time, if you are sub5 it's ok because nobody can get sex, everyone has the same bots. Rich people can't simply attain their money because their dad was rich, everyone is forced to work hard, it is much more fair and just under this system. If you are from a worse family (poor, incompetent, abusive) then it doesn't matter since everyone is raised by the state, nobody is at an advantage or disadvantage for simply being born in a better family.

Achievements attained in your life will be based on your performance and nobody will be able to get far in places simply because of their looks since sex is banned there will be less simping and the emphasis of looks when applying for jobs. There will even be less racism, I would say 75% of racism stems because of female choice and because of mate-guarding females, since sex will be abolished because everyone can only have sex with AI bots there will be less hatred amongst individuals based on race.

Under this system real love doesn't exist, it will not be taught in the education system and banned if it's purported throughout the media or entertainment systems because it is destructive to productivity, individuals will be oblivious to 'real love' concept as this purely exists in a metaphysical dimension and is not grounded in reality. It is a similar to how a Hindu believes he is giving prasad and attaining enlighten from his Gods, in his dimension he has lifted his ego but in reality all he has done is placed food under a statue. I talked about this love concept and how it is a sham before so I don't want to ramble too much about it.

Don't get me wrong, the economic system will definitely not be a communist system because that has proved to fail multiple times throughout history, the main points are that the nuclear family system is abolished and sex fully banned unless it's with realistic sex robots.

No, the family system will not and shall not change. It is rooted in our biology to have a mom and a dad, just as wolves have their wolf pack, bears with their "mama bear" and so on. Yes, some animals have "single moms" like bears, but that is how they evolved. We were evolved to have a mother and a father. End of discussion.

This biology does not matter that much. Humans are unique creatures because we restrain our biological tendencies and create a culture out of it, humans have been able to advance into what we are now because we don't follow our instincts like every other creature, we can stop acting on our instincts and create a more sophisticated society that contains culture, otherwise if we acted upon every instinct and biology ingrained in us, we would simply be chimpanzees.

 

[Zat]

Some people may not know about that, but a common belief associated with Marxists is that they support the current state of dating market, which is rooted in free love and abolishing of the nuclear family system.

The general Marxist view is actually very similar to the mainstream liberal values today - LGBT, hookups, free love...Despite the fact that Marxists claim that free love may not be polygamy, or that it promotes promiscuity, you cannot deny biology and the mateguarding mechanism was put in place for a reason.

Let's review two sources today....One from a newspaper associated with the communist party of Britain (now defunct) and other from Reddit.

‘Free love’ or ‘family values’ — is there a Marxist view?

morningstaronline.co.uk

Despite the author's claim that Marxist does not have particular business in family view/"love", their position is inherently contradictory to the traditional family unit

Word salad. Here we see the slipping of the author's bias.


This is contradictory, another common characteristic from Marxists. No, abolishing the family MAKES IT so it turns women into "wage workers", not the other way around.


So, in short, a welfare system combined with free love and lack of parents, since the state takes care of things...That is actually very similar to the single mom situation today.


No, the family system will not and shall not change. It is rooted in our biology to have a mom and a dad, just as wolves have their wolf pack, bears with their "mama bear" and so on. Yes, some animals have "single moms" like bears, but that is how they evolved. We were evolved to have a mother and a father. End of discussion.

Here's what ledditors have to say about this...


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/10d6tp9/quick_rundown_on_free_love_and_anarchism/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Socialism_101/comments/105qp73/what_do_marxists_mean_when_they_want_to_abolish/


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There are more if you want to read, but from what we can see, Marxists are obsessed with dogmatism and ideology. To them, Marxism is a surrogate religion in place of a traditional religion.

Quick Rundown: Jews being Jews
Also MUH NUCLEAR TRAD FAMILY is a fucking larp made by richfags that own land/cars/money
An average Joe would have to break his ass 15 hours per day to provide for his family working like a fucking slave to get a sloppy blowjob at night, that's now what a man deserves. Capitalism and socialism both are Jewed
FOID'S RIGHTS are the biggest problem here, they should be treated as property, that would singlehandedly eliminate 99% of problems in the world for both men and women

 

[stalin22]

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