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Blackpill [Hard To Swallow Edition] Dear Religiouscels, Please Try And Think Abstractly So You Can Finally Realize That God Is "Evil" (He Created "Evil")

If God just did one AMA on reddit we could end all this shit JFL

But no, it would just ruin his fun to be upfront and honest

I would not be surprised if God and the Devil is one and the same, like some kind of crazed multiple personality disorder due the trauma of being alone for millions of years

We always talk about after creation, but nobody even talks about how long God existed on his own BEFORE he created anything, maybe he went mad before he even did all this, either way were fucked because they guy is crazy
Yeah if he existed, he would undoubtedly be mentally ill, old testament has a bipolar god who doesnt know what he wants. Quran God also fucks over the pharoh right before he was about to repent. Clearly the God of all three major monotheistic religions is bipolar psycho.
 
The perceived "evil" by humanity is actually the absence of God's protection.
People are free to choose if they want to be under His protection or not.
Once people abandon their fate, God abandons them.
That's where evil comes in.
 
Yeah if he existed, he would undoubtedly be mentally ill, old testament has a bipolar god who doesnt know what he wants. Quran God also fucks over the pharoh right before he was about to repent. Clearly the God of all three major monotheistic religions is bipolar psycho.

JFL @ God even saying in his own book that he is a jealous God, how the hell can you be jealous and the creator of anything?

The only thing that makes me think is that other God's exist and he doesn't want anyone worshiping God's other than him

So the whole jealous God thing just makes it seem like he was lying about being the ONLY God

Oh and I'm glad you mentioned the Pharaoh because that's a perfect example of how we DON'T have free will, I remember that verse in the Bible, always found it so funny, God sounded like a dick in that verse

@RREEEEEEEEE @Mainländer

Exodus 9:12
"But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh; and he did not heed them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses."

God has taken away free will before, he can do so as he pleases, so the argument that God allows us to suffer because its part of free will is a lie, we have no idea whose free will is being manipulated to suit God's design and his prophecy, whose to say if many of the actions you've taken in life were your decisions at all

People are free to choose if they want to be under His protection or not.

Nope, stop with the "free will" nonsense, God has taken it away before (see above), you don't know who its being taken from at every moment of every day
 
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We only have the free will to perform actions within the parameters of the circumstances of our birth. A person's actions will always be influenced by EXTERNAL VARIABLES: GENETICS (IQ, physical attractiveness, social intelligence) and ENVIRONMENT (the level of wealth/connections of the family they were born into, the values/beliefs instilled in them early in life by authoritative figures etc.).

The factors which are OUT OF YOUR CONTROL influence your actions which are IN YOUR CONTROL. Although we have a choice with regards to which actions we perform, that choice itself is influenced by things in which we DON'T have a choice. The trajectory of our life will be determined by which path we choose from the subset of potential pathways which God has already chosen for us.

You'll never resort to rape if women consent to you having sex with them. You'll never resort to theft if you weren't starving and broke. You'll never resort to murder unless it was necessary to ensure the safety of yourself/your family.

LIVING A NON-SINFUL LIFE IS A LUXURY OF THE PRIVILEGED.

Hence i dont believe free will is absolute. God is just as accountable as we are when it comes to whether we go to heaven or hell, because he has pre-determined our possibilities while giving us the ILLUSION OF CHOICE. God is definitely evil.
 
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Lmfao I will respond to you tomorrow. When I get on a PC.

lol nice cop out, thats another way of saying "Give me a day to think my arguments through because they dont make sense to me either". JFL not expecting a reply from you. And if you reply it'll most likely just be some bluepilled BS which you took a whole day to write.
 
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By the way, this thread should be moved to “Must-Read Content”. @SergeantIncel
 
>god created evil
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By the way, this thread should be moved to “Must-Read Content”. @SergeantIncel
Funny that epicurus is as reddit tier as it gets.Also this "paradox" has already been answered a million times by christian philosophers

the problem of evil will never be a philosophical one but will forever be an emotional one.

Also to all the ones "debating" Blkpill,please stop.He will never listen to a word.Pride has consumed him.Even if you throw a million arguments he will dismiss it with some absurd excuse.Even the laziest atheist philosophers took the time and a few pages to answer even the most basic arguments throw by christian philosophers whilst blkpill dismisses everything with two paragraphs(half of them being passive aggressive mumbling,insults,ridicule and the other half being bold,coloured sentences that i am never sure if they are highlighting a point or a punchline).
 
>god created evil
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Funny that epicurus is as reddit tier as it gets.Also this "paradox" has already been answered a million times by christian philosophers

the problem of evil will never be a philosophical one but will forever be an emotional one.

Also to all the ones "debating" Blkpill,please stop.He will never listen to a word.Pride has consumed him.Even if you throw a million arguments he will dismiss it with some absurd excuse.Even the laziest atheist philosophers took the time and a few pages to answer even the most basic arguments throw by christian philosophers whilst blkpill dismisses everything with two paragraphs(half of them being passive aggressive mumbling,insults,ridicule and the other half being bold,coloured sentences that i am never sure if they are highlighting a point or a punchline).
And you did not provide any objective arguments for your standpoint whatsoever.

Can you summarize what these Christian philosophers have written to refute the thesis of this thread?

The number of words used in an argument is also irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is the logical coherence.
 
And you did not provide any objective arguments for your standpoint whatsoever.

Can you summarize what these Christian philosophers have written to refute the thesis of this thread?

The number of words used in an argument is also irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is the logical coherence.
i have not provided any because there are a million responses to that question.Look at my sig for example.go on youtube and videos like these will show up

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4hF3IYGp4&t=224s


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0gPoqx_bQ&t=809s

funny enough the second video talks about the "epicurean problem of evil" paradox.

there is no point in me talking since other people have packaged it in a manner much better then i ever could.you could ask me a specific question but i won't waste my time detailing the main objections.
 
Deceived and gnostcuckpilled. God did not create evil, evil was created through the fall of man when Eve was tricked by the old serpent. God made it clear that eating the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was FORBIDDEN, yet she got played by Lucifer into comitting the Original Sin. But God so loved the world that he gave His only Son, and whosoever believes in Him will not perish. Christ sacrificed Himself to pay for the sins of man including the Original Sin, as the wages of sin is death. He defeated death itself by bearing the wrath of God ("It is finished") and resurrecting. Why did God allow Eve to be deceived in the first place? I have no answer for that... He gave us free will and so we chose to be evil. Note that two or more Cherubim were assigned to guard the Garden of Eden after Adam and Eve were banished, so it could have been possible for angels to move freely between heaven and earth and would explain how Lucifer (who was also a Cherub before he fell) could have been there to set his plan in motion. Have you ever humbly asked God to come into your life and save you?
 
Problem of evil has been explained time and time again, it 's only whether you want it to accept the truth or not. Just like no matter how much you explain the blackpill, some people will never accept it.

Anyways, it's beyond hilarious how Gaytheists think their world view, which is pushed by liberals and kikes, is the best, when it has led to all this bullshit we see. Gaytheists commit the most suicide, the most wars, and have steered the world into a new age of degeneracy, including fucking dogs.

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Yeah if he existed, he would undoubtedly be mentally ill, old testament has a bipolar god who doesnt know what he wants. Quran God also fucks over the pharoh right before he was about to repent. Clearly the God of all three major monotheistic religions is bipolar psycho.
Biblical God is bipolar because his words are in reality done by men.

As for God in the Quran "fucking over" the Pharaoh, no, he didn't, he had ample time to believe, but him decieding to believe when he knew it was truly over will not help him, just like how Abu Talib knew his nephew, Prophet Muhammad, was a prophet, but never acknowledged it, and thus, he is in hell. Same goes for Abu Lahab. And same goes for the Kuffar when the sun rises from the west. JFL at this logic bro
TBH
Religion is the biggest cope. All it does is brainwash people so they do not interrogate or question how the cycle of life is fucked up.

How is religion "cope"? What does that even mean? Aren't Atheists the one trying so hard to cope with their hedonism with drugs, degeneracy, porn, and consooming marvel films?

With Islam, this is not the case, maybe with Christianity though, as Allah mentioned clear as day that even those who believe in Islam will be tried with hardships and trials and that they won't just "be left alone after saying we have believed''
We only have the free will to perform actions within the parameters of the circumstances of our birth. A person's actions will always be influenced by EXTERNAL VARIABLES: GENETICS (IQ, physical attractiveness, social intelligence) and ENVIRONMENT (the level of wealth/connections of the family they were born into, the values/beliefs instilled in them early in life by authoritative figures etc.).

The factors which are OUT OF YOUR CONTROL influence your actions which are IN YOUR CONTROL. Although we have a choice with regards to which actions we perform, that choice itself is influenced by things in which we DON'T have a choice. The trajectory of our life will be determined by which path we choose from the subset of potential pathways which God has already chosen for us.

You'll never resort to rape if women consent to you having sex with them. You'll never resort to theft if you weren't starving and broke. You'll never resort to murder unless it was necessary to ensure the safety of yourself/your family.

LIVING A NON-SINFUL LIFE IS A LUXURY OF THE PRIVILEGED.

Hence i dont believe free will is absolute. God is just as accountable as we are when it comes to whether we go to heaven or hell, because he has pre-determined our possibilities while giving us the ILLUSION OF CHOICE. God is definitely evil.
Except God does take into account a person's situation when their sin is brought into account. As such, a man who rapes out of desperation will not be treated the same as one who rapes even though he is married. Same goes for theft, murder, and so on. This even applies to religion. One who has never heard of Islam or didn't have good sources of information to learn about Islam will not be judged as someone who has free access to all Islamic knowledge on the internet. In fact, this reasoning is why, if a Muslim commits a sin, he will be punsiehd 2x more than if a Kaffir does it, because the Muslim is aware it displeases God, while the Kaffir isn't.
 
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If gos existed he wouldn't have allowed me to be possible. Do I have a soul now that I have self awareness? Or will I fade away after death because I'm an animal.

At least you guys know you have souls for sure.

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JFL at godcels. The ULTIMATE cope. Just face it, you had one chance at life, and you were born inkwell. It's OVER for all of us, and nothing will happen once you die, you will just rot in the ground and be forgotten into the void of space and time like everyone before you and everyone after you. Take the realitypill :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
 
lol nice cop out, thats another way of saying "Give me a day to think my arguments through because they dont make sense to me either". JFL not expecting a reply from you. And if you reply it'll most likely just be some bluepilled BS which you took a whole day to write.
Keep crying for me pajeet. Once I get on a PC I will give him an in-depth response if it's warranted.
 
If God existed Foids would be punished for being whores tbh. God would literally make a whole series of books about Femasites and how cancer they all are. :dafuckfeels:
Praised be Allah!
 
Why bother, you know full well you are wrong, its ridiculous that you don't have the self awareness to just admit to this
Keep coping, I already proved you wrong, now you're still coping hard since you don't like the answwrs you're getting. Not my fault. Since you need a lengthy response I am going to do it on a keyboard, not through my phone.
 
Deceived and gnostcuckpilled. God did not create evil, evil was created through the fall of man when Eve was tricked by the old serpent

Retard that's like saying - "God didn't create hurricanes, he just created the atmospheric systems that result in hurricanes that kill many people"

You are missing the obvious question here because you are a biased indoctrinated idiot

WHY CREATE THE SYSTEMS THAT RESULT IN HURRICANES? JFL

WHY CREATE THE SERPENT?

WHY CREATE A TREE WITH FRUIT THAT IF EATEN RESULTS IN THE "FALL OF MAN"?


How are you so fucking stupid that these obvious questions don't pop into your head, you are exhibit A of what indoctrination does to the mind, it literally BLOCKS YOU FROM THINKING

Keep coping, I already proved you wrong, now you're still coping hard since you don't like the answwrs you're getting. Not my fault. Since you need a lengthy response I am going to do it on a keyboard, not through my phone.

Don't bother, you just proved yourself to be an idiot by saying the length of the response is relevant, you'll just give me a long pile of garbage to read through and most of your arguments will be faith based emotional bullshit, in other words, NOT ARGUMENTS
 
JFL at godcels. The ULTIMATE cope. Just face it, you had one chance at life, and you were born inkwell. It's OVER for all of us, and nothing will happen once you die, you will just rot in the ground and be forgotten into the void of space and time like everyone before you and everyone after you. Take the realitypill :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
 
God like a programmer
I don't really have to elaborate on why trying to comapre a piece of shit creature like a human to a transcendent being who we are most likely incapable of even comprehending is a bad idea, do i?
JFL religion explains nothing and can be pretty much demolished by using high school science.
No, it can't...
"The only thing i know is that i know nothing"
-Socrates
 
yet the act itself is classified as "sinful" because its pleasurable (
Many already replied rightfully, but I also say it again: That is not the reason. Otherwise the act of eating would also be sinful.
It is that you will become "one flesh" with your sexual partner. A strong spiritual bond. Studies show that pair-bonding capacities decrease with numbers of sexual partners.

So, having the free will to commit adultery destroys this relationship and the ability for possible next relationships. That is not how it was intended.
By the way, therefor sex before marriage is not as bad as adultery when it leads to marriage. But there are studies, that marriages, who do have sex before the wedding are more prone to divorce.
Don't forget that sex normally leads to children in all of this and there were no common US divorce laws, which took all of the man's possessions and wealth.

I would interpret your example with the program differently: For applying evil, you don't have to use a forbidden evil program but execute the existing good program with the wrong parameters and conditions.

Everything here is a shadow of spiritual truths. Therefore Jesus used many pictorial examples from the fields of agriculture, marriage or fishing to illustrate this. "Being faithful" has not unfoundedly two meanings.
Sex has to be joyful because marriage is the feast of coming together full of joy and with the highlight of sexual intercourse. It is a shadow of our reunion with God. Then it is the act of creating new flesh. To need a spiritual action like prayer would not be an appropriate "program" to do this.

You have to see into the whole testimony of God from Genesis to Revelation to accept or reject it.
But now you are like many atheists: You make yourself an image of God, to deny it afterward.
When you don't know or accept, that there was a breakdown of a "very good creation", Christendom calls "fall of man" (the German term Sündenfall fits more because it doesn't only affected the human nature), then this whole world makes no sense and a God linked to this creation neither - other than the interpretation, that he is stupid or likes torture.

He needed to create a son, to get killed so that he could forgive his creation for having the gall to seek out knowledge?

Could he just....... you know........ SIMPLY FORGIVE THEM

Jesus was already there. He created the world.
And God shares attributes, which he cannot let put off. In this sense, he is technically not all-mighty. He cannot make himself Not-God (ok, not fully true because of Jesus) the same like he cannot make himself Non-Love and Non-Life and Non-Righteousness and Non-Holyness.
He couldn't just say: "I forgive you." without violation of his attributes of righteousness and holiness. This would be the same as he would have said: "My announcement of punishment which I made before for this action is not valid."
Then there is the argument of learning: The relationship was destroyed. They have to acknowledge that this is a big thing.
And: Humans were stained with the dirt of sin. That blood is the only thing, which can take away sins is the principle that we don't have anything other, what we can give. God announced that "you will die" when we sin. So either we die or anybody other in replacement - but he has to be without sin on its own.

He could just be so powerful that the "elements of the universe" respond to his commands, that doesn't make him intelligent, don't falsely conflate power with intelligence

Even if, he had to create this superintelligent, responding elements in the first place, which makes him more intelligent than these elements.

If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
He allows evil in this amount, that the people, who live far from him (every single human being) become aware, that they need God. That they become aware that there is something wrong. That they ask for God. For finding him here and finally in eternity, how it was thought. A world without evil would indicate that there is nothing wrong with this world. Everything good what we have despite of this is the grace of God. We turned away from God. He is the life-source. Currently, there is a division because of sin, which would end in the second death, but he draws people to him, as long as is the time of grace - even when this drawing to him is often marked by pain.

But no, I cannot explain how every suffering will serve the good in the end or even sure that every single one does serve this purpose. But there are enough examples in the bible and the life of people how God changed the apparently evil to good, peaking in the example of the cross, that I am sure the big part of pain and suffering we will see in retrospective as needed.

Don't forget that we have free will. Most evil things are done by people to other people. Even when the external variables out of control, to use the words of @IncelKing, make it more or less prone to sin depending on the circumstances, they are the ones who act and are guilty. Also, those who rob, rape, and murder in desperation.

JFL @ God even saying in his own book that he is a jealous God, how the hell can you be jealous and the creator of anything?

The only thing that makes me think is that other God's exist and he doesn't want anyone worshiping God's other than him

No, but he is jealous that we turn to idols. Imagine being a father of a son and you want a good relationship with this son, but he goes permanently to the neighbors who give him every day big chocolate ice and a pizza. Or better: You want to give your son also these things, but he prefers a worse version from your neighbor. Or also: You give you son good this, but he claims it comes from the neighbors.

Exodus 9:12
"But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh; and he did not heed them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses."
It is dishonest or lack of knowledge, when you don't mention, that the Pharao hardened his heart on his own multiple times before.
It shows that we have free will, but sometimes there is a point of no return crossed. When God showed so often, that he IS and we reject him willfully. This seems not to be an automatism, but possible. I hope that is not the case with you.

WHY CREATE A TREE WITH FRUIT THAT IF EATEN RESULTS IN THE "FALL OF MAN"?
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God defines what is good and evil. When he said, that this creation was "very good", which includes a free will and the possibility to turn away from him and rebel, I accept it. And I can understand somewhat because otherwise, we were robots, but we are indeed made in his image.

To make free will a reality it has not only implemented in our nature, but we had to get into a situation, where free will has to be executed in a decision.
 
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To make free will a reality it has not only implemented in our nature, but we had to get into a situation, where free will has to be executed in a decision.

Exodus 9:12
"But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh; and he did not heed them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses."

God has taken away free will before, he can do so as he pleases, so the argument that God allows us to suffer because its part of free will is a lie, we have no idea whose free will is being manipulated to suit God's design and his prophecy, whose to say if many of the actions you've taken in life were your decisions at all
 
Doesn't contradict each other. He had many situations before, where it was his free will to say "no". Only without any of possible applications in situations the implementation of a free will nature into humans would make no sense.
 
Doesn't contradict each other. He had many situations before, where it was his free will to say "no". Only without any of possible applications in situations the implementation of a free will nature into humans would make no sense.

It is a contradiction, because you don't know for sure who God is currently manipulating, he could be manipulating you right now into being an illogical idiot JFL, if God mind fucked the Pharaoh, there's no telling who else he did it to when he wanted a prophecy to come out the way he intended

Hitler could have gone to art school whose to say God didn't make the person accepting students reject Hitler on purpose so that he'd become who he became

There's no way to know
 
Problem of evil has been explained time and time again, it 's only whether you want it to accept the truth or not. Just like no matter how much you explain the blackpill, some people will never accept it.

Anyways, it's beyond hilarious how Gaytheists think their world view, which is pushed by liberals and kikes, is the best, when it has led to all this bullshit we see. Gaytheists commit the most suicide, the most wars, and have steered the world into a new age of degeneracy, including fucking dogs.

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Except God does take into account a person's situation when their sin is brought into account. As such, a man who rapes out of desperation will not be treated the same as one who rapes even though he is married. Same goes for theft, murder, and so on. This even applies to religion. One who has never heard of Islam or didn't have good sources of information to learn about Islam will not be judged as someone who has free access to all Islamic knowledge on the internet. In fact, this reasoning is why, if a Muslim commits a sin, he will be punsiehd 2x more than if a Kaffir does it, because the Muslim is aware it displeases God, while the Kaffir isn't.

You dont understand. In Abrahamic religions God is typically given 3 qualities: ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ALL LOVING.
Lets assume God exists, for the sake of argument. I've never seen any religious person successfully solve the EPICUREAN PARADOX

1.
If God truly is ALL KNOWING, then there is no need to test us as he knows every Action we're going to perform before we even perform them, he knows every possible series of events at every point in time and space, why would he test WHAT HE ALREADY KNOWS?

If God doesnt know what we're going to do due to which he needs to test us, then that means that GOD ISN'T ALL KNOWING.

2.
If God is ALL POWERFUL, then it is very possible that not only does he KNOW every action each of us will take in our lifespan, he may even be CONTROLLING our actions. If God was responsible for bringing us into the world under CIRCUMSTANCES of HIS CHOOSING, then its possible that he may even be responsible for the ACTIONS we take in our lifespan. For all we know, we're just puppets and God is pulling our strings. If God controls our actions and is manipulating us to do what he wants assuming god is ALL-POWERFUL, then that means FREE WILL DOESN'T EXIST. There is no reason to test us IF WE LACK THE FREE WILL TO MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES. We are basically no different to an AI in a robot, operating and functioning in accordance to lines of code written by the programmer (GOD).

If god can't control our actions due to which he needs to "test us", then GOD ISN'T ALL POWERFUL.


If neither of those 2 scenarios are true, in other words If god really is ALL KNOWING and ALL POWERFUL, yet he creates a world of pain and suffering for no reason the only logical conclusion is that:

GOD ISN'T ALL LOVING.

Pain and Suffering exist for GOD'S ENTERTAINMENT. Emotional human beings like to project their own emotions onto their idea of the concept of "God", but if god exists, he's most likely a cold and emotionless psychopath.

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High IQ and high effort waste of time, religious cucks are unsalvageable.
 
You dont understand. In Abrahamic religions God is typically given 3 qualities: ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ALL LOVING.
Lets assume God exists, for the sake of argument. I've never seen any religious person successfully solve the EPICUREAN PARADOX

1.
If God truly is ALL KNOWING, then there is no need to test us as he knows every Action we're going to perform before we even perform them, he knows every possible series of events at every point in time and space, why would he test WHAT HE ALREADY KNOWS?

If God doesnt know what we're going to do due to which he needs to test us, then that means that GOD ISN'T ALL KNOWING.

2.
If God is ALL POWERFUL, then it is very possible that not only does he KNOW every action each of us will take in our lifespan, he may even be CONTROLLING our actions. If God was responsible for bringing us into the world under CIRCUMSTANCES of HIS CHOOSING, then its possible that he may even be responsible for the ACTIONS we take in our lifespan. For all we know, we're just puppets and God is pulling our strings. If God controls our actions and is manipulating us to do what he wants assuming god is ALL-POWERFUL, then that means FREE WILL DOESN'T EXIST. There is no reason to test us IF WE LACK THE FREE WILL TO MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES. We are basically no different to an AI in a robot, operating and functioning in accordance to lines of code written by the programmer (GOD).

If god can't control our actions due to which he needs to "test us", then GOD ISN'T ALL POWERFUL.


If neither of those 2 scenarios are true, in other words If god really is ALL KNOWING and ALL POWERFUL, yet he creates a world of pain and suffering for no reason the only logical conclusion is that:

GOD ISN'T ALL LOVING.

Pain and Suffering exist for GOD'S ENTERTAINMENT. Emotional human beings like to project their own emotions onto their idea of the concept of "God", but if god exists, he's most likely a cold and emotionless psychopath.

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Allah is not All-Loving though, so your entire argument is baseless.
 
Retard that's like saying - "God didn't create hurricanes, he just created the atmospheric systems that result in hurricanes that kill many people"

You are missing the obvious question here because you are a biased indoctrinated idiot

WHY CREATE THE SYSTEMS THAT RESULT IN HURRICANES? JFL

WHY CREATE THE SERPENT?

WHY CREATE A TREE WITH FRUIT THAT IF EATEN RESULTS IN THE "FALL OF MAN"?


How are you so fucking stupid that these obvious questions don't pop into your head, you are exhibit A of what indoctrination does to the mind, it literally BLOCKS YOU FROM THINKING



Don't bother, you just proved yourself to be an idiot by saying the length of the response is relevant, you'll just give me a long pile of garbage to read through and most of your arguments will be faith based emotional bullshit, in other words, NOT ARGUMENTS

JFL high IQ and based!

low IQ idiots BTFO, its been a while since ive seen anybody get destroyed this brutally in a discussion.
Allah is not All-Loving though, so your entire argument is baseless.

replace "Abrahamic God" with "Christian God" and magically my argument has validity again.
 
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OP is a dumbass who puts up straw men to beat. I’m not even particularly religious and I can tell how this is wrong.

god and the divine didn’t make this earth to be great. He made this earth to be a test for humanity and to see who’d pull through. Not everyone is human either such is why the world is a test. A lot of people are genuine NPC’s with little cognitive function.
 
OP is a dumbass who puts up straw men to beat. I’m not even particularly religious and I can tell how this is wrong.

god and the divine didn’t make this earth to be great. He made this earth to be a test for humanity and to see who’d pull through. Not everyone is human either such is why the world is a test. A lot of people are genuine NPC’s with little cognitive function.
It is very over when the schizocel makes more sense then the OP:lul:
 
OP is a dumbass who puts up straw men to beat. I’m not even particularly religious and I can tell how this is wrong.

god and the divine didn’t make this earth to be great. He made this earth to be a test for humanity and to see who’d pull through. Not everyone is human either such is why the world is a test. A lot of people are genuine NPC’s with little cognitive function.

JFL simply calling an argument "wrong" doesnt mean shit if you cant formulate an explanation as to WHY its wrong. What makes it wrong? Stating things without explaining is a pointless endeavour.

As for why it makes no logical sense for God to test us, ive addressed that topic a lot today so i wont repeat myself. You can take a look at my thread.
 
JFL simply calling an argument "wrong" doesnt mean shit if you cant formulate an explanation as to WHY its wrong. What makes it wrong? Stating things without explaining is a pointless endeavour.

As for why it makes no logical sense for God to test us, ive addressed that topic a lot today so i wont repeat myself. You can take a look at my thread.
sorry I’m not gonna post 50 paragraphs of poopie ass. I explained why it was wrong.

god doesnt have the powers you think he does. This world isn’t gods. It’s a logical test for us to have the proper character to ascend to his domain. This is a battle ground between god and the devil, and that’s why there’s so many mindless NPCS walking around. Dumbass NPCS and worldly garbage are sent by Satan to fuck us up so god rejects us. if you don’t get fucked up god chooses you to go to his domain.

also no I’m not gonna read your ape-tier monkey writing where you probably talk about licking OP’s asscrack
It is very over when the schizocel makes more sense then the OP:lul:
Huffing farts makes you smart
 
gud bad bcus he mke dvil woh bad :feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman:
 
It is very over when the schizocel makes more sense then the OP:lul:

schizocel will make sense to a fellow schizocel. Birds of the same feather flock together.

Also just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that it's not True. The complex mathematical equations which allow human beings to observe and understand the laws of physics, are TRUE even if they make no sense to you.

"Lacking knowledge of X" and "X being False" are two different things
 
Every time someone religious speaks about "evil" they speak about it in a way that distances God from its creation, which shows JUST HOW BRAIN WASHED THEY ARE

If God CREATED EVERYTHING, then he CREATED EVIL TOO

You can't use bullshit mental gymnastics to try and separate God from the evil he created

GOD DECIDES WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG

For example:
There is nothing inherently "bad" about the act of sexual intercourse, yet the act itself is classified as "sinful" because its pleasurable (WHEN GOD CREATED PLEASURE), and God makes an exception of it being allowed "within the confines of marriage"

IT IS GOD DECIDING THAT THE ACT OF SEX IS "BAD" (IRONICALLY BEING THE PERSON WHO CREATED SUCH A MEANS TO REPRODUCE, HE COULD HAVE CREATED ANOTHER "LESS SINFUL" MEANS)

I know abstract thinking is something hard for religious people, because your mindset and worldview is literally about not thinking and letting your religious doctrine do the thinking for you, but try and follow, like really try, we were all religious once



Think of God like a programmer

Now imagine if a programmer created a set of tasks to be executed by a program via various functions

Would it make sense for the programmer to create functions FOR TASKS THAT HE DID NOT WANT EXECUTED?

Would it make sense for the programmer to also write code that deletes the program (punishes the thing he created) FOR EXECUTING THE TASKS HE PROGRAMMED IT TO DO (EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T WANT THOSE TASKS TO BE EXECUTED)?

THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUSLY NO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL




Let me make this simpler for you if you can't follow the above:
1. IT IS COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL FOR GOD TO CREATE HUMANS WITH THE ABILITY TO DO SPECIFIC ACTS (THAT HE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO DO)
2. ALSO MAKE HUMANS MORE INCLINED TO DO THOSE ACTS (AS THEY ARE DESIGNED BY HIM TO BE BENEFICIAL/ENJOYABLE)
3. THEN DEFINE THOSE ACTS AS "SINS" (WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE TO CREATE THOSE ACTS TO BEGIN WITH)
4. THEN PUNISH HUMANS FOR COMMITTING SAID ACTS (THAT HE CREATED THEM TO NOT ONLY BE CAPABLE OF, BUT TO ALSO ENJOY DOING)


So either God is a SADIST or he's an IDIOT (or worse, maybe both)

Whenever you try to separate God from the concept of evil, it sounds as stupid as trying to separate a programmer from the bad code they wrote that crashes your computer

When a computer crashes due to a specific software, you don't blame the user for using the software in a manner that exposes its flaws and causes errors, that would be ridiculous, its the job of the programmer to do testing and debugging to get rid of those flaws and errors

IT WAS GOD'S JOB TO CREATE A WORLD WITHOUT EVIL

So one can only assume ALL THIS SUFFERING IS ON PURPOSE FOR THE SAKE OF HIS ENTERTAINMENT
literally the same thing in my mind. God is literally the contradictory trickster, that only has this world or anything else because it desires and find it fun to relish in it. It's a playground in a sense where all the types of kids exist. Which is why I've said that adults are no different to how they behaved as kids, and that maturity in actual sense is a character of a person and not necessarily something you auto gain from growing up. You can still learn and still act like a dick and not learn and be the most virture signalling retard to ever exist (this should be easy for people to understand as it does have links to humans. I call it the ideas man, purely because all idea and thought would originate from their. What's the birth place of a demon or an angel if not god. Also here's the funny thing, free will exists but retards/addicts want to deny it doesn't exist and say that the only reason they want do things is because it was automatic, when in actuality, a idea appears and it's on you whether you act on it or not, which is why if everything was auto then ther would be near enough everyone being some form of a robot doing exactly the same thing as everyone else but this would be false as it wouldn't explain evolution nor the mass inventions we have as of now, nor the understanding of theories and cause/effect.

Don't denote the idea of god being a male however, because with your logic, that I agree of too, it would actually mean that god would also be a female, tranny or anything for that matter, thus the idea of labelling god is absurd, when we know it created everything. I actually enjoy the faggot's company, when I talk to myself as well as something else.

Also spiritual/physicalist niggertards need to be axed, as they can only think in one view and never the two. To further the point about the programmer, however, is that it would make sense for the programmer to create a code to delete the entire program purely because he/she/it relishes in the joy of doing so, therefore, supporting my main point being that of god being a contradictory trickster. This isn't anything new to me but I'm glad that someone else knows about it.
 
schizocel will make sense to a fellow schizocel. Birds of the same feather flock together.

Also just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that it's not True. The complex mathematical equations which allow human beings to observe and understand the laws of physics, are TRUE even if they make no sense to you.

"Lacking knowledge of X" and "X being False" are two different things
Look dudes, do you have concrete evidence that proves without a shadow of a doubt that God cannot exist? If not, there is no point in me wasting 3 days trying to convince you that he does then, i have already done this dance a hundred times and really don't have the energy for yet another fruitless discussion.
 
Look dudes, do you have concrete evidence that proves without a shadow of a doubt that God cannot exist?

i'll just quote BPP, he explains it in an easy to understand kindergartener manner for you low IQ retards.
Do you have proof unicorns don't exist?

Of course you don't

Does that mean they do exist?

No

Does it mean they don't exist?

Also no, they could very well exist

BUT

If one is going to base their life choices on something

IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO BASE YOUR LIFE CHOICES ON OBSERVABLE REALITY RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT MERELY HASN'T BEEN PROVEN TO NOT EXIST YET

This is common sense, but you are a religious person so logic doesn't matter to you, only your emotions matter
 
LMAO at @BlkPillPres for wasting his precious time on this but that's why I like him ngl, he is more of an altruist than he'd care to admit.
 
OP is a dumbass who puts up straw men to beat. I’m not even particularly religious and I can tell how this is wrong.

god and the divine didn’t make this earth to be great. He made this earth to be a test for humanity and to see who’d pull through. Not everyone is human either such is why the world is a test. A lot of people are genuine NPC’s with little cognitive function.
Then "God" can take his sadistic test and fuck off.

Imagine creating a robot that could feel pain, whose body constantly tortured it into carrying out self-maintenance, and prodded it until it agreed to compete for access to another robot, just to make the bad feelings go away (an effort by the creator to get them to make more robots). It can feel pleasure, but most of the pleasure it feels is a simple respite from it's torment which it perceives as pleasure by contrast. A robot which exists in a world where anything gained is something taken away from another robot, another being in the exact same predicament.

Ask yourself whether or not a being who would create such a machine is qualified to be testing anyone, and if there is anything to be gained from this test which isn't merely a solution to a problem wholly constructed by the creator (such as the resilience necessary to weather hardship).
do you have concrete evidence that proves without a shadow of a doubt that God cannot exist?
Nobody has that. Although an atheist/agnostic could simply respond with Russell's Teapot, which is why the lack of evidence proving God cannot exist doesn't really convince someone who cares about conclusive evidence. The burden of proof isn't on them.
 
i'll just quote BPP, he explains it in an easy to understand kindergartener manner for you low IQ retards.
Ad hominems, the war cry of someone who is losing an argument. So in other words: No, i do not? Fantastic, let me know when you find some.
Nobody has that.
So why should i give a shit what you have to say then? For people who pride themself on facts and logic, you sure seem to be missing those when it comes to this topic. I have no reason to switch over to atheism as it currently stands, zilch, nada, none, zero.
 
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Ad hominems, the war cry of someone who is losing an argument. So in other words: No, i do not? Fantastic, let me know when you find some.

wheres your proof that god does exist? and no dont give me exerpts from religious scriptures as there is no evidence to suggest that those scriptures were revelations from god rather than the figment of imagination of human beings. Im talking about objectively observable and quantifiable proof.

Reality is based on evidence and facts rather than beliefs and emotions, show some concrete REAL SCIENTIFIC/PHYSICAL /MATERIAL PROOF or stay quiet like a good little brainwashed cuck.
 
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wheres your proof that god does exist? and no dont give me exerpts from religious scriptures as there is no evidence to suggest that those scriptures were revelations from god rather than the figment of imagination of human beings. Im talking about real, scientific, physical, objectively observable and quantifiable proof.
I could say the same thing to state on your proof that determines god doesn't exist without just the belief of it not existing. While your at it, explain how free will doesn't exist in the case of recovering addicts, and the origin of thought and ideas. If you can give an explanation on your own then that's fine and I mean a detailed one.
 
wheres your proof that god does exist? and no dont give me exerpts from religious scriptures as there is no evidence to suggest that those scriptures were revelations from god rather than the figment of imagination of human beings. Im talking about objectively observable and quantifiable proof.

Reality is based on evidence and facts rather than beliefs and emotions, show some concrete REAL SCIENTIFIC/PHYSICAL /MATERIAL PROOF or stay quiet like a good little brainwashed cuck.
This is more about making claims you have no possible way of backing up then it is about religion and God to me, besides i haven't made a claim that needs proof :lul:
 

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