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Blackpill I don’t think IQ and looks are in correlation with each other

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Lots of copers here love to think that having good looks instantly results in good IQ and to some extent, this theory is obviously not entirely off the mark but being of higher intelligence doesn’t necessarily stem from being born with good looks or vice versa.

I think it all ultimately just boils down to two things:

1. Being brought up in an environment and culture that can contribute to intellectual performances of which permit you decent opportunities.

If you are a Chad or even normie then chances are you’ve been brought up by a family that has a bloodline of people who had lived indefinitely healthy lifestyles with good habits of hygiene and socializing. That’s how genes basically evolve over time.

One of the key reasons why curries are considered to be so “ugly” and underdeveloped in terms of western beauty standards is purely because of the hundreds and thousands of years of forced inbreeding in an unbelievably unhealthy environment.

What a culture as a whole values is what also defines you as an individual, and if those values are in contrast of practices based on habits revolving around intelligence then it doesn’t take half a fucking brain to realize a good society full of opportunities yields more room for development which ultimately results high IQ. This is why a large proportion of the people in my country are generally savage and of very little intelligence (such as myself), it’s not just because hurr durr genetics.

The perfect example of this is when you compare western curries to south Asian curries. They both look like shit, they both have had the same ancestors, they both are basically of the same exact race, and yet curries brought up in western societies IQmog Indian curries to fucking oblivion and beyond. They are not even the same species when it comes to intelligence.

This isn’t an exception, it’s a general rule and it does have its fair share of breaking the “good looks = good IQ” theory to a degree.

But it doesn’t just end there, it’s not just the society. It could be defined by your family as well.

IF NO ONE during your childhood even cared about your likes, dislikes, achievements, ambitions, goals and never bothered to present you with sufficient time to develop and help you establish an environment where you can freely cultivate and put any of your attributes into good use then chances are, you ended up being low IQ.


2. Intelligence is the result of responses you evoke from those around you including and especially your peers.

According to studies based on pairs of twins with similar upbringing, it was concluded that the result of their IQ levels being roughly the same was not just because of genetic correlation, but mostly because of the fact that they both looked the same and ended up evoking unusually similar responses and reactions from everyone in their lives.

This is when you realize just how much looks matter on a day to day basis. This is the ultimate blackpill. It doesn’t just end with you being unable to find companionship, no, it sprouts to every single fucking department in your life.

Chad is NOT smart because he was born that way, Chad is smart because everyone involved in his life encouraged him to be. Chad starts experiencing love at first hand by the time he’s 14, he gets admired by all of his peers as he develops, everyone wants to hang around him, everyone wants to be him, everyone cherishes him, he is loved by all.

Thanks to this and even the smallest things like getting smiles from food cashiers, slowly but surely, his viewpoint in life will determine his actions that inevitably support him in gaining higher intelligence than those unfortunate enough to be born with a repulsive face, those that no one would hesitate to avoid with everything at their disposal.

The “these people keep giving me the looks” story you keep hearing from your brocels may seem silly and harmless at first until it fucking repeats itself for a lifetime, leaving them devastated, pondering why things are the way they are, at long last turning them into an empty shell of a human being, unable to even function properly in society let alone being presented with an opportunity to showcase how intelligent they are.

There is no end to this suffering. Only endurance. Life is just a game of luck and at the end, it’s all a matter of how you’re gonna choose to accept this factor.
 
In most cases yes, but not always. Btw, I didt read your shit, just the title.
 
True. They are not correlated.
 
There's also inbreeding to think about, ugly shitskin Arabs and curries are likely to be inbred and low IQ. :lul:
 
And you retard think id ever believe this (((politically-correct us-government))) sources? Try again, donkey. Your profile text says everything about you.
 
Looks and IQ are correlated insofar as higher IQ means you're more likely to have secured access to more resources, which means you're more likely to have secured a better looking mate. Your IQ plus your mate's looks gives you good looking and intelligent offspring who then go to prestigious schools and end up as upper management in big corporations.
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
And you retard think id ever believe this (((politically-correct us-government))) sources? Try again, donkey. Your profile text says everything about you.
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Are you idiot? Most of the scientific blackpill is based on this webpage.

You are just fool bluepilled.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
Are you idiot? Most of the scientific blackpill is based on this webpage.

You are just fool bluepilled.
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Speak english, donkey. I dont and wont understand any of your low-IQ bs.

Here some scientific sourches for you, moron. https://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/i2011.pdf "1. Introduction Scientists have long suspected that intelligence and physical attractiveness may be positively correlated across individuals (Berscheid & Walster, 1974, p. 195; Vandenberg, 1972, p. 153)"

And here for you lol https://en.hespress.com/44549-moroc...w-in-international-population-iq-ranking.html

:feelshmm:
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
Speak english, donkey. I dont and wont understand any of your low-IQ bs.

Here some scientific sourches for you, moron. https://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/i2011.pdf "1. Introduction Scientists have long suspected that intelligence and physical attractiveness may be positively correlated across individuals (Berscheid & Walster, 1974, p. 195; Vandenberg, 1972, p. 153)"

And here for you lol https://en.hespress.com/44549-moroc...w-in-international-population-iq-ranking.html

:feelshmm:
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Keep coping. Kanazawa's study was debunked as you could have read.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INTELLIGENCE AND FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS IN A LARGE, GENETICALLY INFORMATIVE SAMPLE

Theories in both evolutionary and social psychology suggest that a positive correlation should exist between facial attractiveness and general intelligence, and several empirical observations appear to corroborate this expectation. Using highly reliable ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Read again, you kike.
 
What is there to read? My life experience, the study i linked plus my first post here said it all. Can you donkey even read? That is the more important question. Look at this map. You have the IQ of my beer shit, darkredcel lol:

pfkx04bhulh91.jpg
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
What is there to read? My life experience and my first post here said it all. Can you donkey even read, that is the question. Look at this map. You have the IQ of my beer shit, darkredcel lol:

pfkx04bhulh91.jpg
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You still don't prove anything. A user whose name does not do him any merit. I get that you have to use the ad hominem fallacy to try to make a point in the crap you're saying.

Even if my IQ were to your personal self-masturbatory liking, you would still not prove that there is indeed a correlation between facial attractiveness and IQ, because the study you cited has been debunked.
 
I agree, they're not correlated. Unfortunatelly some ''people'' consider if you are not attractive that means you are dumb fuck ,so ugly=dumb, (very)good looking = smart, for most of them , sadly.
 
Eddie1888 said:
I agree, they're not correlated. Unfortunatelly some ''people'' consider if you are not attractive that means you are dumb fuck ,so ugly=dumb, (very)good looking = smart, for most of them , sadly.
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Classical halo effect.
 
Eddie1888 said:
I agree, they're not correlated. Unfortunatelly some ''people'' consider if you are not attractive that means you are dumb fuck ,so ugly=dumb, (very)good looking = smart, for most of them , sadly.
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says the Graycel
 
Moroccancel2- said:
You still don't prove anything. A user whose name does not do him any merit. I get that you have to use the ad hominem fallacy to try to make a point in the crap you're saying.

Even if my IQ were to your personal self-masturbatory liking, you would still not prove that there is indeed a correlation between facial attractiveness and IQ, because the study you cited has been debunked.
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The Kanzawa study from 2011 is legit, the bs study you posted is just (((politically correct)) bs so that ugly fatasses or losers like you can still cope. Youre pathetic dude. I bet your IQ is even under 65 ngl
 
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BlackPilledNeet said:
The Kanzawa studay is legit.
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Nope, it has debunked by superior statistical sampling that includes many other studies.
the bs you posted is just (((politically correct bs)) so that ugly fatass or losers like you can still cope
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Faced with statistical evidence, you simply start crying because you cannot continue with the cope of your IQ online tests results.
BlackPilledNeet said:
Youre pathetic dude. I bet your IQ is even under 65 ngl
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It doesn't matter what IQ I may have, you're still a bluepilled who doesn't accept the best peer-reviewed scientific evidence and infinitely superior statistical sampling than this paper you are sticking when it has been clearly debunked.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
Nope, it has debunked by superior statistical sampling that includes many other studies.

Faced with statistical evidence, you simply start crying because you cannot continue with the cope of your IQ online tests results.

It doesn't matter what IQ I may have, you're still a bluepilled who doesn't accept the best peer-reviewed scientific evidence and infinitely superior statistical sampling than this paper you are sticking when it has been clearly debunked.
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You have the IQ of a donkey. Again, you proofed shit. I mean, you really proofed shit. My IQ is over 120 (made the norwegian mensa test) while yours is lower than my beer shit. Beautiful people ( in most cases) have a high IQ, while ugly people (like you) are dumb as my beer shit. Youre the best proof, donkey.
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
By who? Again, by your ((politcally-correctness)) study from 2015 which is like 4 pages long lol? Youre really that stupid.
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Just click on the sources, you fool.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INTELLIGENCE AND FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS IN A LARGE, GENETICALLY INFORMATIVE SAMPLE

Theories in both evolutionary and social psychology suggest that a positive correlation should exist between facial attractiveness and general intelligence, and several empirical observations appear to corroborate this expectation. Using highly reliable ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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You dont get it. You think because its new (2015) it must be true. This study is a complete joke. I can make a 10 page study that my shit can cure inceldom. Trust me.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
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  • Kleisner Karel, Chvátalová Veronika, Flegr Jaroslav. Perceived Intelligence Is Associated with Measured Intelligence in Men but Not Women. PLoS One. 2014;9(3):e81237. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
  • Kosova G, Abney M, Ober C. Heritability of reproductive fitness traits in a human population. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 2009 [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
  • Kovas Y, Plomin R. Generalist genes: implications for the cognitive sciences. Trends in Cognitive Sciences. 2006;10(5):198–203. [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
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Just click on the sources, you fool.
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I cant click. Again, youre ugly and stupid. My proof is right. You lost lol
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
You dont get it. You think because its new (2015) it must be true. This study is a complete joke. I can make a 10 page study that my shit can cure inceldom. Trust me.
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It has more consistency because it has been peer-riewed by dozens of studies that support it, while the paper you cited has no other statistical contrast. Do not be an idiot.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
Yes, it is clear you are retard. Shut the fuck up, moron troll.
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Debunk me. Youre ugly and stupid. My proof is correct. That's science, right here. I won. Im a scientist and youre just a donkey.
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
debunk me. Youre ugly and stupid. My proof is correct. That's science. I won. Im a scientist and youre just a donkey.
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You were debunked already. The statistical and investigative evidence is overwhelming.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
You were debunked already. The statistical and investigative evidence is overwhelming.
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You can fake every statistic you want so that Itll be (((politcally correct))). You seem that you dont know shit about superior genetics. Superior genetics mean, that you have the looks and the brain. You have neither. There are so many academic studies about (((climate change))), (((vaccines)) etc. Youre just a little kid, a donkey kid. Respect me. Dont argue with me, kid. Just stfu.
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
You can fake every statistic you want so that Itll be (((politcally correct))). You seem that you dont know shit about superior genetics. Superior genetics mean, that you have the looks and the brain. You have neither. There are so many academic studies about (((climate change))), (((vaccines)) etc. Youre just a little kid, a donkey kid. Respect me. Dont argue with me, kid. Just stfu.
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Yeah, now the blackpill is what you want it to be. Subjectivist piece of shit.
 
BlackPilledNeet said:
You can fake every statistic you want so that Itll be (((politcally correct))). You seem that you dont know shit about superior genetics. Superior genetics mean, that you have the looks and the brain. You have neither. There are so many academic studies about (((climate change))), (((vaccines)) etc. Youre just a little kid, a donkey kid. Respect me. Dont argue with me, kid. Just stfu.
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Moroccancel2- said:
Yeah, now the blackpill is what you want it to be. Subjectivist piece of shit.
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Moroccancel is right, if this isn't a bit you're coping hard.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
Yeah, now the blackpill is what you want it to be. Subjectivist piece of shit.
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Idgaf what people or the majority thinks what "blackpilled" is or not. Im a man and I say what is on my mind. I think youre wrong. I know youre wrong. Again science plus my life experiences showed me that in like 8/10 cases beautiful people are also very smart. Thats all i was saying. And I said that most (((scientific studies))) are rigged for (((political reasons)))
Mortis said:
Moroccancel is right, if this isn't a bit you're coping hard.
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Who gives a shit what you think? Youre just a retard as he is. Fuckin graycel. You didnt even know what a fuckin study is, you retard. Kys.
 
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Thats all i was saying
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Therefore, if I have to trust you with your individual and subjective experiences or trust dozens of studies that contradict a residual study that you have cited, then I choose the evidence. If you have evidence that debunks the vast majority of these studies summarized, go ahead.
 
Moroccancel2- said:
Therefore, if I have to trust you with your individual and subjective experiences or trust dozens of studies that contradict a residual study that you have cited, then I choose the evidence. If you have evidence that debunks the vast majority of these studies summarized, go ahead.
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Again, you can trust ((studies)) as much as you want to. Go ahead. ((Studies)) showed that getting jabbed 6 times per year is good for your health. Another (((studies)) showed that being a tranny is absolutely natural. And I saw another ((study)) that showed the earth will be a desert planet in 2100. So, go ahead and trust ((science)), kid.
:feelshaha:
 
I only read the first sentence of both points but basically you're wrong. IQ is totally genetic, and you can be born good looking with low IQ. But, I do think that good looks, e.g., symmetrical face, tends to correlate with good genes in intelligence somewhat (but probably a weak correlation).
 
I think it all ultimately just boils down to two things:
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Nah dog, it's mostly genes.

Outside of what makes you smart, how strong of a connection there is between smarts and looks I don't really know. I can imagine a bunch of ways how IQ and attractiveness might causly link together:
One example would be "mutational load". The higher the amount of random non-benefical mutations in your DNA, the less symmetrical your face is. But random mutation are also not good for your physical or mental performance. In a system as complex as your body, randomly changing anything is almost always a decrease in performance.
So top athletes are much better looking than the average population, in part because the DNA inside their cells got there facing harsher selection, which removed individuals with high mutational load from the gene pool.
There could also be heavy indirect causality, high IQ leads to more money, both earning more yourself and your parents having more because they are also high IQ, which leads to better health care and access to expensive surgeries in high quality clincs done by top surgents.
High IQ parents making better decisions and planning ahead more responsibly, so maybe they are more likely to force you to eat healthy or enforce good oral hygiene or who knows what.
Since I have never seen any data or study I have no strong opinion about how crass the causation connecting IQ and looks is, but no causal connection at all is not on the table, I don't think.
Even a negative correlation is more likely than none. I Remember reading about high IQ men being disproportionally likely to marry less attractive women. Think that one was even from the incel wiki. So if that trend holds over time, you breed for smart but ugly.
Honestly though, this kind of question seems like it should be possible to answer with high certainty if you can find someone who's doing research on the topic on twitter and charmingly ask them to point you towards w/e the highest quality studies are, or maybe some articles in more laymen-friendly science-communication journals summarising the general consensus.
 
Celius said:
Lots of copers here love to think that having good looks instantly results in good IQ and to some extent, this theory is obviously not entirely off the mark but being of higher intelligence doesn’t necessarily stem from being born with good looks or vice versa.

I think it all ultimately just boils down to two things:

1. Being brought up in an environment and culture that can contribute to intellectual performances of which permit you decent opportunities.

If you are a Chad or even normie then chances are you’ve been brought up by a family that has a bloodline of people who had lived indefinitely healthy lifestyles with good habits of hygiene and socializing. That’s how genes basically evolve over time.

One of the key reasons why curries are considered to be so “ugly” and underdeveloped in terms of western beauty standards is purely because of the hundreds and thousands of years of forced inbreeding in an unbelievably unhealthy environment.

What a culture as a whole values is what also defines you as an individual, and if those values are in contrast of practices based on habits revolving around intelligence then it doesn’t take half a fucking brain to realize a good society full of opportunities yields more room for development which ultimately results high IQ. This is why a large proportion of the people in my country are generally savage and of very little intelligence (such as myself), it’s not just because hurr durr genetics.

The perfect example of this is when you compare western curries to south Asian curries. They both look like shit, they both have had the same ancestors, they both are basically of the same exact race, and yet curries brought up in western societies IQmog Indian curries to fucking oblivion and beyond. They are not even the same species when it comes to intelligence.

This isn’t an exception, it’s a general rule and it does have its fair share of breaking the “good looks = good IQ” theory to a degree.

But it doesn’t just end there, it’s not just the society. It could be defined by your family as well.

IF NO ONE during your childhood even cared about your likes, dislikes, achievements, ambitions, goals and never bothered to present you with sufficient time to develop and help you establish an environment where you can freely cultivate and put any of your attributes into good use then chances are, you ended up being low IQ.


2. Intelligence is the result of responses you evoke from those around you including and especially your peers.

According to studies based on pairs of twins with similar upbringing, it was concluded that the result of their IQ levels being roughly the same was not just because of genetic correlation, but mostly because of the fact that they both looked the same and ended up evoking unusually similar responses and reactions from everyone in their lives.

This is when you realize just how much looks matter on a day to day basis. This is the ultimate blackpill. It doesn’t just end with you being unable to find companionship, no, it sprouts to every single fucking department in your life.

Chad is NOT smart because he was born that way, Chad is smart because everyone involved in his life encouraged him to be. Chad starts experiencing love at first hand by the time he’s 14, he gets admired by all of his peers as he develops, everyone wants to hang around him, everyone wants to be him, everyone cherishes him, he is loved by all.

Thanks to this and even the smallest things like getting smiles from food cashiers, slowly but surely, his viewpoint in life will determine his actions that inevitably support him in gaining higher intelligence than those unfortunate enough to be born with a repulsive face, those that no one would hesitate to avoid with everything at their disposal.

The “these people keep giving me the looks” story you keep hearing from your brocels may seem silly and harmless at first until it fucking repeats itself for a lifetime, leaving them devastated, pondering why things are the way they are, at long last turning them into an empty shell of a human being, unable to even function properly in society let alone being presented with an opportunity to showcase how intelligent they are.

There is no end to this suffering. Only endurance. Life is just a game of luck and at the end, it’s all a matter of how you’re gonna choose to accept this factor.
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I agree with a lot of what you said...

..But I think you mean "not correlated with each other" right?
 
Celius said:
Lots of copers here love to think that having good looks instantly results in good IQ and to some extent, this theory is obviously not entirely off the mark but being of higher intelligence doesn’t necessarily stem from being born with good looks or vice versa.

I think it all ultimately just boils down to two things:

1. Being brought up in an environment and culture that can contribute to intellectual performances of which permit you decent opportunities.

If you are a Chad or even normie then chances are you’ve been brought up by a family that has a bloodline of people who had lived indefinitely healthy lifestyles with good habits of hygiene and socializing. That’s how genes basically evolve over time.

One of the key reasons why curries are considered to be so “ugly” and underdeveloped in terms of western beauty standards is purely because of the hundreds and thousands of years of forced inbreeding in an unbelievably unhealthy environment.

What a culture as a whole values is what also defines you as an individual, and if those values are in contrast of practices based on habits revolving around intelligence then it doesn’t take half a fucking brain to realize a good society full of opportunities yields more room for development which ultimately results high IQ. This is why a large proportion of the people in my country are generally savage and of very little intelligence (such as myself), it’s not just because hurr durr genetics.

The perfect example of this is when you compare western curries to south Asian curries. They both look like shit, they both have had the same ancestors, they both are basically of the same exact race, and yet curries brought up in western societies IQmog Indian curries to fucking oblivion and beyond. They are not even the same species when it comes to intelligence.

This isn’t an exception, it’s a general rule and it does have its fair share of breaking the “good looks = good IQ” theory to a degree.

But it doesn’t just end there, it’s not just the society. It could be defined by your family as well.

IF NO ONE during your childhood even cared about your likes, dislikes, achievements, ambitions, goals and never bothered to present you with sufficient time to develop and help you establish an environment where you can freely cultivate and put any of your attributes into good use then chances are, you ended up being low IQ.


2. Intelligence is the result of responses you evoke from those around you including and especially your peers.

According to studies based on pairs of twins with similar upbringing, it was concluded that the result of their IQ levels being roughly the same was not just because of genetic correlation, but mostly because of the fact that they both looked the same and ended up evoking unusually similar responses and reactions from everyone in their lives.

This is when you realize just how much looks matter on a day to day basis. This is the ultimate blackpill. It doesn’t just end with you being unable to find companionship, no, it sprouts to every single fucking department in your life.

Chad is NOT smart because he was born that way, Chad is smart because everyone involved in his life encouraged him to be. Chad starts experiencing love at first hand by the time he’s 14, he gets admired by all of his peers as he develops, everyone wants to hang around him, everyone wants to be him, everyone cherishes him, he is loved by all.

Thanks to this and even the smallest things like getting smiles from food cashiers, slowly but surely, his viewpoint in life will determine his actions that inevitably support him in gaining higher intelligence than those unfortunate enough to be born with a repulsive face, those that no one would hesitate to avoid with everything at their disposal.

The “these people keep giving me the looks” story you keep hearing from your brocels may seem silly and harmless at first until it fucking repeats itself for a lifetime, leaving them devastated, pondering why things are the way they are, at long last turning them into an empty shell of a human being, unable to even function properly in society let alone being presented with an opportunity to showcase how intelligent they are.

There is no end to this suffering. Only endurance. Life is just a game of luck and at the end, it’s all a matter of how you’re gonna choose to accept this factor.
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@K9Otaku
 
JayGoptri said:
I agree with a lot of what you said...

..But I think you mean "not correlated with each other" right?
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Actually looking back at this shitty thread, I see a few minor grammar issues here and there. Over for me, really should start studying the language somewhere or at least spend more time editing my posts carefully.
 
Celius said:
Is it grammatically incorrect? If so, my bad.

https://incels.is/threads/my-english-makes-me-feel-like-a-crackhead.503211/
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Yes, it can be depending on what you want to say. Saying they have "no correlation" versus saying they are not "in correlation" can signify multiple possibilities. The former implies the two are always mutually exclusive in the infinitive. The latter can imply that at the moment you see no overlap, but there might be one.

Tiny details, and you don't have to correct it. I just wanted to make sure I understand the content and let you know I agree with your main point. But in the body of your post, you gave more arguments for why they might actually be correlated, so I was a bit confused.
 
Is the study identifying “good looks” as chad vs incel or just regular looking people vs ogre robust phenotype people?
 
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