Cope "If you ascend you were never incel"

[Deleted member 23682]

I've seen this retarded logic several times by multiple users on this forum. The definition of incel is "involuntary celibate" meaning a state of being. If you want to get sex, but can't get it, you are incel. But if someone does a bunch of stuff, like surgeries or something, and ascends, then why are they "never incel". What kind of retarded logic is this? It sounds like another retarded gatekeeping cope by losers who want to feel like the most special incel princes in the world.

 

[Dregster]

I've seen this retarded logic several times by multiple users on this forum. The definition of incel is "involuntary celibate" meaning a state of being. If you want to get sex, but can't get it, you are incel. But if someone does a bunch of stuff, like surgeries or something, and ascends, then why are they "never incel". What kind of retarded logic is this? It sounds like another retarded gatekeeping cope by losers who want to feel like the most special incel princes in the world.

It's massive Cope

A bluepilled 4/10 male who started making 6 figures would believe he ascended without realizing that it's his income that made him "desirable" by holes

 

[IamJacksBrokenHeart]

Theres some truecels who will never ascend ,
but apart from that small minority
, most people here have a chance at ascending through betabuxx .
But is it really worth it ?

I think what they mean is ,
that its bettet to be incel than cuck .
If you cant have it all ,
why even accept the leftovers ?

 

[FrothySolutions]

The thinking is, if you aren't willing to put in the effort, you're choosing to be incel.

However, I think you can try, fail, and still be incel until you succeed. It's all about the trying.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

It's massive Cope

A bluepilled 4/10 male who started making 6 figures would believe he ascended without realizing that it's his income that made him "desirable" by holes

Theres some truecels who will never ascend ,
but apart from that small minority
, most people here have a chance at ascending through betabuxx .
But is it really worth it ?

I think what they mean is ,
that its bettet to be incel than cuck .
If you cant have it all ,
why even accept the leftovers ?

I'm not talking about betabuxx, I'm talking about actual sex that does not depend on marriage or prostitution.

The thinking is, if you aren't willing to put in the effort, you're choosing to be incel.

However, I think you can try, fail, and still be incel until you succeed. It's all about the trying.

I'm talking about putting in effort to escape inceldom

 

[Dregster]

I'm not talking about betabuxx, I'm talking about actual sex that does not depend on marriage or prostitution.


I'm talking about putting in effort to escape inceldom

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

Most men cant get laid without being a provider/simp

 

[Deleted member 23682]

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

Most men cant get laid without being a provider/simp

That if you ascend, it doesn't mean that you were "never incel".

 

[FrothySolutions]

I'm talking about putting in effort to escape inceldom

What people are saying is, if you put in effort to escape inceldom, and succeed, you were never incel. Just a volcel who wasn't putting in the effort. Now that you have put in the effort, you've gotten laid.

 

[Iwanttolive]

It's for youngcels

 

[Dregster]

What people are saying is, if you put in effort to escape inceldom, and succeed, you were never incel. Just a volcel who wasn't putting in the effort. Now that you have put in the effort, you've gotten laid.

There is such a thing as too much effort.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

What people are saying is, if you put in effort to escape inceldom, and succeed, you were never incel. Just a volcel who wasn't putting in the effort. Now that you have put in the effort, you've gotten laid.

That's retarded logic. Because it's not like you turned down girls, what happened was you were at a point where you couldn't get laid, THEREFORE INCEL, and you improved to a point where you can, thus ascending.

It's for youngcels

This is also stupid gatekeeping logic as well tbh.

 

[FrothySolutions]

There is such a thing as too much effort.

What's the acceptable amount of effort?

 

[OldIncel]

I'm probably a bit mentalcel/volcel ngl

 

[Dregster]

What's the acceptable amount of effort?

Depends on the person and the amount of time and manpower he wasted to attain what someone else got at half the effort.

Chad should never be the bar on these sort of discussions.

If you have to try harder than a 6/10 high tier normie, it never began.

 

[FinnCel]

Let's say you're chad.
One day you get into a car accident. You lose your legs and your face becomes disfigured. You also lose your ability to speak properly. You sound like a speech impaired person.
Suddenly all women stop treating you like a king. They stop wanting you and start avoiding you.
You're now an incel.

Spoiler

He's not a truecel though, as he got to experience life

 

[Iwanttolive]

That's retarded logic. Because it's not like you turned down girls, what happened was you were at a point where you couldn't get laid, THEREFORE INCEL, and you improved to a point where you can, thus ascending.


This is also stupid gatekeeping logic as well tbh.

Nah u don't want this place to become edgy teens club.

 

[FrothySolutions]

That's retarded logic. Because it's not like you turned down girls, what happened was you were at a point where you couldn't get laid, THEREFORE INCEL, and you improved to a point where you can, thus ascending.

Just because women aren't approaching you doesn't mean you're incel. If you "can't" get laid, that means you'll fail even if you try. You have to try. You have to do the approaching. You have to do the self-improvement. You have to make the effort.

Depends on the person and the amount of time and manpower he wasted to attain what someone else got at half the effort.

Chad should never be the bar on these sort of discussions.

If you have to try harder than a 6/10 high tier normie, it never began.

But not every man is as attractive as every other man. Just because an attractive man has it easier than me, an ugly man, doesn't necessarily make me incel. It just means I have to work much, much harder.

Now, if I work that much harder but am still not getting laid, then yeah I'm incel.

 

[RemoveNormalfags]

Trueceldom is permanent

 

[Dregster]

Just because women aren't approaching you doesn't mean you're incel. If you "can't" get laid, that means you'll fail even if you try. You have to try. You have to do the approaching. You have to do the self-improvement. You have to make the effort.



But not every man is as attractive as every other man. Just because an attractive man has it easier than me, an ugly man, doesn't necessarily make me incel. It just means I have to work much, much harder.

Now, if I work that much harder but am still not getting laid, then yeah I'm incel.

Did you not read what I said?

You dont set the bar with what an attractive male can get. I clearly stated that.

A 6/10 male can be good enough for one foid and another foid may deem him too ugly. Either way, if 6/10 tries hard enough he will find someone.

If you have to try harder than a nonchad, it never began for you.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Depends on the person and the amount of time and manpower he wasted to attain what someone else got at half the effort.

Chad should never be the bar on these sort of discussions.

If you have to try harder than a 6/10 high tier normie, it never began.

What if an incel spends over 10k on platic surgery and becomes a Chadlite and fucks a bunch of beckies? Never began?

I'm probably a bit mentalcel/volcel ngl

Volcel is opposite of incel.

Mentalcel is still incel technically.

Nah u don't want this place to become edgy teens club.

You think all the teens are "edgy"?

1. That sounds like a moralfag tbh
2. I think the teens are fine here.

Just because women aren't approaching you doesn't mean you're incel. If you "can't" get laid, that means you'll fail even if you try. You have to try. You have to do the approaching. You have to do the self-improvement. You have to make the effort.



But not every man is as attractive as every other man. Just because an attractive man has it easier than me, an ugly man, doesn't necessarily make me incel. It just means I have to work much, much harder.

Now, if I work that much harder but am still not getting laid, then yeah I'm incel.

women make the first move you know? or do you? If a girl isn't at least giving you an IOI, you're an incel. There's no point in approaching if she sees you as ugly

Trueceldom is permanent

Incel=Truecel

 

[Dregster]

What if an incel spends over 10k on platic surgery and becomes a Chadlite and fucks a bunch of beckies? Never began?

Without surgery, he never gets that in any lifetime.

Most people have to moneymaxx to put that kind of money together. You're already trying harder than most if that's you're end goal with money.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Without surgery, he never gets that in any lifetime.

Most people have to moneymaxx to put that kind of money together. You're already trying harder than most if that's you're end goal with money.

So let's say I get these surgeries then finally ascend. I used to be incel, and now I am no longer incel, correct?

 

[FrothySolutions]

Did you not read what I said?

You dont set the bar with what an attractive male can get. I clearly stated that.

A 6/10 male can be good enough for one foid and another foid may deem him too ugly. Either way, if 6/10 tries hard enough he will find someone.

If you have to try harder than a nonchad, it never began for you.

Yeah, non-chads can be attractive. They have to be, if they attract someone. "Non-chad" doesn't mean "ugly." 6/10 doesn't mean "ugly." Therefore just because I have to work harder than a 6/10 doesn't mean I'm incel. If I work harder than a 6/10 and ascend, I'm no longer incel. But during the time that I was trying and failing, I was incel.

women make the first move you know? or do you? If a girl isn't at least giving you an IOI, you're an incel. There's no point in approaching if she sees you as ugly

Not every woman makes the first move. Some do. And a lot of them might, but won't unless the man is very attractive. That doesn't mean she won't give you a shot if you make the effort. If you do the approaching and really sell yourself.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Yeah, non-chads can be attractive. They have to be, if they attract someone. "Non-chad" doesn't mean "ugly." 6/10 doesn't mean "ugly." Therefore just because I have to work harder than a 6/10 doesn't mean I'm incel. If I work harder than a 6/10 and ascend, I'm no longer incel. But during the time that I was trying and failing, I was incel.

Not every woman makes the first move. Some do. And a lot of them might, but won't unless the man is very attractive. That doesn't mean she won't give you a shot if you make the effort. If you do the approaching and really sell yourself.

Define first move.

 

[HueHueBr]

The thinking is, if you aren't willing to put in the effort, you're choosing to be incel.

However, I think you can try, fail, and still be incel until you succeed. It's all about the trying.

It is not that simple.

Let's say that in order to ascend, you need to strive in the x and y directions, but for lack of self-awareness, you direct your efforts towards z. No matter how hard you try, you can never go up, because x and y are missing. Even if you put your life at z, reach unbelievable levels of development in the z direction, nothing will work, because z is not the right direction. Will you be considered volcel because you are not striving in the right direction?

Let us now say that x and y will require a huge financial and psychological effort, well above your current financial condition, and that you will need careermaxx to the extreme to be able to follow x and y. Let's say that you will have to sacrifice vacations, you will have to abandon several things you like, to the point of becoming a robot, just to continue following x and y.

The cruelest thing is that you will not know if x and y will really make you ascend. It may be that all this enormous effort results in nothing, and your whole life has been wasted in a vain search.

 

[Dregster]

So let's say I get these surgeries then finally ascend. I used to be incel, and now I am no longer incel, correct?

You're soul would still be inkel. You're already damaged.

But no, on paper, you are no longer physically incel if the surgeries work in your favor.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

It is not that simple.

Let's say that in order to ascend, you need to strive in the x and y directions, but for lack of self-awareness, you direct your efforts towards z. No matter how hard you try, you can never go up, because x and y are missing. Even if you put your life at z, reach unbelievable levels of development in the z direction, nothing will work, because z is not the right direction. Will you be considered volcel because you are not striving in the right direction?

Let us now say that x and y will require a huge financial and psychological effort, well above your current financial condition, and that you will need careermaxx to the extreme to be able to follow x and y. Let's say that you will have to sacrifice vacations, you will have to abandon several things you like, to the point of becoming a robot, just to continue following x and y.

The cruelest thing is that you will not know if x and y will really make you ascend. It may be that all this enormous effort results in nothing, and your whole life has been wasted in a vain search.

EXTREMELY HIGH IQ

When I was young My dad told me to focus on schoolwork and gym instead ofimproving my face. and as a result my face got destroyed by acne

You're soul would still be inkel. You're already damaged.

But no, on paper, you are no longer physically incel if the surgeries work in your favor.

Interesting,

 

[Dregster]

Yeah, non-chads can be attractive. They have to be, if they attract someone. "Non-chad" doesn't mean "ugly." 6/10 doesn't mean "ugly." Therefore just because I have to work harder than a 6/10 doesn't mean I'm incel. If I work harder than a 6/10 and ascend, I'm no longer incel. But during the time that I was trying and failing, I was incel.



Not every woman makes the first move. Some do. And a lot of them might, but won't unless the man is very attractive. That doesn't mean she won't give you a shot if you make the effort. If you do the approaching and really sell yourself.

What a half-assed way to call out most incels as volcels

By your logic, 90% of the forum are volcel.

 

[HueHueBr]

Now let's imagine another situation.

Let's imagine that your only chance of ascension would occur between the ages of 15 and 25. After that age, it was over.

Now, let's imagine that you are severely autistic, and your brain development occurs so slowly that you will only have some maturity after the age of 27. In other words, you would hardly have any interest in girls before that age.

Will you be considered volcel because you did not use your best years to ascend?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Now let's imagine another situation.

Let's imagine that your only chance of ascension would occur between the ages of 15 and 25. After that age, it was over.

Now, let's imagine that you are severely autistic, and your brain development occurs so slowly that you will only have some maturity after the age of 27. In other words, you would hardly have any interest in girls before that age.

Will you be considered volcel because you did not use your best years to ascend?

Definitely incel in this very odd scenario

 

[Dregster]

It is not that simple.

Let's say that in order to ascend, you need to strive in the x and y directions, but for lack of self-awareness, you direct your efforts towards z. No matter how hard you try, you can never go up, because x and y are missing. Even if you put your life at z, reach unbelievable levels of development in the z direction, nothing will work, because z is not the right direction. Will you be considered volcel because you are not striving in the right direction?

Let us now say that x and y will require a huge financial and psychological effort, well above your current financial condition, and that you will need careermaxx to the extreme to be able to follow x and y. Let's say that you will have to sacrifice vacations, you will have to abandon several things you like, to the point of becoming a robot, just to continue following x and y.

The cruelest thing is that you will not know if x and y will really make you ascend. It may be that all this enormous effort results in nothing, and your whole life has been wasted in a vain search.

Now let's imagine another situation.

Let's imagine that your only chance of ascension would occur between the ages of 15 and 25. After that age, it was over.

Now, let's imagine that you are severely autistic, and your brain development occurs so slowly that you will only have some maturity after the age of 27. In other words, you would hardly have any interest in girls before that age.

Will you be considered volcel because you did not use your best years to ascend?

@FrothySolutions

Right here this guy, he puts you away for good.

There is nothing wrong with putting effort. Putting effort becomes a pointless endeavor if the end result changes nothing for you and/or you sacrifice other aspects in life to attain something that someone else got to enjoy with half the effort.

Then the ultimate slap to the face is knowing that Chad put down ZERO effort.

 

[Iwanttolive]

You're soul would still be inkel. You're already damaged.

But no, on paper, you are no longer physically incel if the surgeries work in your favor.

It's like being poor all ur life n winning the lottery 3 days before ur death

 

[Dregster]

It's like being poor all ur life n winning the lottery 3 days before ur death

Give or take on how much time you wasted to attain chadlite status and how long you get to enjoy that chadlite lifestyle.

 

[Deleted member 22907]

I think the teens are fine here.

ur damn right we are @ThePlagueDoctor @carticel @Bleachcel @azakhan @Krezo @Colvin76 @AlexanderTheGreat11 @bait____ @Capable_Onion @JohnWickCel @Crypticel77 @SryMyEnglish @sub8male @RemoveNormalfags @Carnivore @Napoleon de Geso @Fragile-X @muharremabi @It'sAConspiracy

 

[Deleted member 23682]

ur damn right we are @ThePlagueDoctor @carticel @Bleachcel @azakhan @Krezo @Colvin76 @AlexanderTheGreat11 @bait____ @Capable_Onion @JohnWickCel @Crypticel77 @SryMyEnglish @sub8male @RemoveNormalfags @Carnivore @Napoleon de Geso @Fragile-X @muharremabi @It'sAConspiracy

lol @Napoleon de Geso

 

[Deleted member 22907]

lol @Napoleon de Geso

HE'S A TEENAGE JB HUNTER AT HEART

 

[Stalin]

if 6/10 tries hard enough he will find someone.

He will find only a woman to beta bux to. Over.

 

[Dregster]

He will find only a woman to beta bux to. Over.

That goes for any Sub8male tbh

Not the point of the thread.

 

[Napoleon de Geso]

Lost teen years - incel, whatever happens later

 

[Deleted member 23682]

That goes for any Sub8male tbh

Not the point of the thread.

Chadlites can get some hookups with beckies if they play their cards right

 

[Dregster]

Chadlites can get some hookups with beckies if they play their cards right

Should of said Sub7 tbh

Chadlites can get stacey/lites too with "effort" applied.

 

[Deleted member 21714]

ur damn right we are @ThePlagueDoctor @carticel @Bleachcel @azakhan @Krezo @Colvin76 @AlexanderTheGreat11 @bait____ @Capable_Onion @JohnWickCel @Crypticel77 @SryMyEnglish @sub8male @RemoveNormalfags @Carnivore @Napoleon de Geso @Fragile-X @muharremabi @It'sAConspiracy

Unfortunately not

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Should of said Sub7 tbh

Chadlites can get stacey/lites too with "effort" applied.

Yeah pretty much.

sub8 theory is more properly sub7/8 theory tbh, but you get the gist

Unfortunately not

How old are you?

 

[It'sAConspiracy]

ur damn right we are @ThePlagueDoctor @carticel @Bleachcel @azakhan @Krezo @Colvin76 @AlexanderTheGreat11 @bait____ @Capable_Onion @JohnWickCel @Crypticel77 @SryMyEnglish @sub8male @RemoveNormalfags @Carnivore @Napoleon de Geso @Fragile-X @muharremabi @It'sAConspiracy

I'm about to become 20 anyway

 

[Stalin]

I do not understand all this buzz around "ascension" word. Is it a typical greycel thing? As a 4/10 I can legit ascend as a beta buxxer with up to 4/10 hole in fakeup(2/10 without), but no thanks. A 2/10 truecel can become a betabux material to what - a 0/10 one? All ascension topics are thus completely retarded and pointless.

 

[ThePlagueDoctor]

That if you ascend, it doesn't mean that you were "never incel".

Personality are you gonna go fuck a Stacy later?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

I do not understand all this buzz around "ascension" word. Is it a typical greycel thing? As a 4/10 I can legit ascend as a beta buxxer with up to 4/10 hole in fakeup(2/10 without), but no thanks. A 2/10 truecel can become a betabux material to what - a 0/10 one? All ascension topics are thus completely retarded and pointless.

What if you're a 5/10?

Personality are you gonna go fuck a Stacy later?

I fuckin wish.

 

[Deleted member 22907]

I'm about to become 20 anyway

brutal agepill

Unfortunately not

ur right

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Unfortunately not

you're not a teencel?

 

[Deleted member 21714]

you're not a teencel?

I'm 18cel but I'm not fine, like Personalityinkwell said