[Blackpill] [Looksmaxxing] "Recomping"

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For those of you not familiar with gymcel lingo, to recomp is to gain muscle and lost fat concurrently.

The bluepilled formula for your ability to recomp successfully without gear is this: Body fat percentage + Training inexperience = Potential for recomp

This formula is missing one key ingredient: GENETICS.

See, you need at least average innate ability in both muscle growth and fat loss, something only genetics can provide. If your muscles have trouble growing for whatever reason, being insulin resistant for example, they're not growing in a calorie deficit, ever. If your fat cells have trouble shrinking for whatever reason, being insulin sensitive or numerous to name two examples, they're not shrinking at any appreciable rate in a calorie deficit small enough for recomp to be possible in most people, and they certainly won't let your muscles have the energy they need to grow.

If you're an incel, you have shit genetics. If you have shit genetics, recomp without drugs is a waste of time and effort. Body fat percentage + Training inexperience + Genetics = Potential for recomp. So unless you have visible abs at this very moment and you want to bodymaxx, you need to go on Auschwitz rations or get some steroids. You wouldn't believe how many skinny-fat men go to the gym for years and look exactly the same because they've bought into the recomp scam.
 
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Lmfao who the fuck cares about recomping lmao

If you are skinny fat just go into a fucking deficit while you are bench/squat/OHP/deadlifting.

You will make muscle gains because there is alot of fat to use as fuel and also you are a novice.

Recomping is never necessary.
 
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Lmfao who the fuck cares about recomping lmao

If you are skinny fat just go into a fucking deficit while you are bench/squat/OHP/deadlifting.

You will make muscle gains because there is alot of fat to use as fuel and also you are a novice.

Recomping is never necessary.
I've seen a few "blackpill" videos recommending recomp.

Also depends on your definition of skinny fat. Anyone under 18% body fat is going to stall in the blink of an eye without good genetics.
 
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I've seen a few "blackpill" videos recommending recomp.

Also depends on your definition of skinny fat. Anyone under 18% body fat is going to stall in the blink of an eye.
If you are around 15% you should not be afraid to do a slow clean bulk.

Re comping is useless. You can always make gains maintaining.

Recomping should happen if you are per say 3% away from your body fat goal or some shit.
 
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Stop the gymcelling. Meme, just get lean and lift that's all deadass
 
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If you are around 15% you should not be afraid to do a slow clean bulk.

Re comping is useless. You can always make gains maintaining.

Recomping should happen if you are per say 3% away from your body fat goal or some shit.
It depends on how well you carry fat. If body fat looks like complete dogshit on you, like if you have stubborn fat on your face, chest, belly, or flanks, you should probably cut to around 10% before bulking. People with more even fat distribution could probably get away with a slow bulk at 15%.
 
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It depends on how well you carry fat. If body fat looks like complete dogshit on you, like if you have stubborn fat on your face, chest, belly, or flanks, you should probably cut to around 10% before bulking. People with more even fat distribution could probably get away with a slow bulk at 15%.
Fat distribution is genetic for sure.

10% is overkill. You can get to 12% and have striations etc
 
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Fat distribution is genetic for sure.

10% is overkill. You can get to 12% and have striations etc
Estimating body fat isn't really exact anyway. It's probably best to play it safe and go for 10%. At worst, you're underestimating your % but still pretty good. At best, you're overestimating it and you have an even larger buffer between your current % and the % you started with.
 
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Estimating body fat isn't really exact anyway. It's probably best to play it safe and go for 10%. At worst, you're underestimating your % but still pretty good. At best, you're overestimating it and you have an even larger buffer between your current % and the % you started with.
People always overestimate their bodyfat. 10% is very overkill and it can get potentially unhealthy if you go lower.
 
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People always overestimate their bodyfat. 10% is very overkill and it can get potentially unhealthy if you go lower.
8% is within the healthy range. I've even heard as low as 6%.

And don't most people underestimate their body fat? Like guys with maybe two visible abs and noticeable love handles claiming to be 10% or lower. People always want to stroke their own egos.
 
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8% is within the healthy range. I've even heard as low as 6%.

And don't most people underestimate their body fat? Like guys with maybe two visible abs and noticeable love handles claiming to be 10% or lower. People always want to stroke their own egos.
10%-15% is completely healthy
 
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10%-15% is completely healthy
Yeah, and that's where most people should probably stay. If you bulk at 15% you'll go up to 20% before you notice any muscle gains, and you'll still look skinny fat. If you cut to 10% first, you can go up to 15% in the same time at the same rate, and look pretty good.
 
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Yeah, and that's where most people should probably stay. If you bulk at 15% you'll go up to 20% before you notice any muscle gains, and you'll still look skinny fat. If you cut to 10% first, you can go up to 15% in the same time and the same rate, and look pretty good.
Yes. That should be the case if you are fat.

The skinny fat look is caused by you having minimal muscle mass.
 
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Yes. That should be the case if you are fat.

The skinny fat look is caused by you having minimal muscle mass.
The lack of muscle is definitely a key component, but the extra fat is just as bad. A skinny fat guy who diets for a few months will become proper skinny. It's much faster to cut the fat first, especially if you're a rank novice who can gain appreciable muscle in a deficit. Then you're in a better position to bulk.
 
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The lack of muscle is definitely a key component, but the extra fat is just as bad. A skinny fat guy who diets for a few months will become proper skinny. It's much faster to cut the fat first, especially if you're a rank novice who can gain appreciable muscle in a deficit. Then you're in a better position to bulk.
Yes man.

I agree that skinny fats should go on a deficit while focusing on big compound lifts.

Thats it.
 
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gymcelling is good cope ngl. I highly recommend it.
It's a good cope but people just obsess with the meme. Yeah lift why not, it's healthy and shut but forget all this bullshit, get lean and do a 40 minute basic routine and you are setc
 
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Yes man.

I agree that skinny fats should go on a deficit while focusing on big compound lifts.

Thats it.
Maybe we just have different ideas of what skinny fat is. Some say it's 15-22%, others say it's 20-25%, etc. All with little to no muscle, obviously.

I say 15-22% is what constitutes skinny fat. Any more is just fat.
 
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Maybe we just have different ideas of what skinny fat is. Some say it's 15-22%, others say it's 20-25%, etc. All with little to no muscle, obviously.

I say 15-22% is what constitutes skinny fat. Any more is just fat.
Hmm.

But we can both agree that skinny fats should eat less and bench more.
 
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Hmm.

But we can both agree that skinny fats should eat less and bench more.
Exactly. Their main focus should be fat loss, but there definitely should be some lifting and adequate protein involved.
 
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ain't no recomping if you fluctuated from morbidly obese to skinny fat, stretching your skin to the point you got flaps hanging off your gyno tits and stomach, looking like a deflated balloon. only way to "recomp" is to take roids. if you got shit genes and wanna stay natty, better to bloatmaxx for 10 years and immediately cut, but you got like a three month window before you lose all your gains. ITS ALL FUCKED
 
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ain't no recomping if you fluctuated from morbidly obese to skinny fat, stretching your skin to the point you got flaps hanging off your gyno tits and stomach, looking like a deflated balloon. only way to "recomp" is to take roids. if you got shit genes and wanna stay natty, better to bloatmaxx for 10 years and immediately cut, but you got like a three month window before you lose all your gains. ITS ALL FUCKED
Yeah, extremeweightlosscels have it especially bad. Adipocyte hyperplasia will pretty much destroy your ability to recomp. Guys with loose skin should be moneymaxxing to pay for that tummy tuck.
 
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Genetics is everything
 
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Lmfao who the fuck cares about recomping lmao

If you are skinny fat just go into a fucking deficit while you are bench/squat/OHP/deadlifting.

You will make muscle gains because there is alot of fat to use as fuel and also you are a novice.

Recomping is never necessary.
only shit that worked for me is eating one low calorie meal a day

playing basketball / lifting on an empty stomach burned fat fast

ain't no recomping if you fluctuated from morbidly obese to skinny fat, stretching your skin to the point you got flaps hanging off your gyno tits and stomach, looking like a deflated balloon. only way to "recomp" is to take roids. if you got shit genes and wanna stay natty, better to bloatmaxx for 10 years and immediately cut, but you got like a three month window before you lose all your gains. ITS ALL FUCKED
getting fat permanetly fucks your skin
 
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Test-e 100-400 mg per week + intermittent fasting.

But it's still more efficient overall to run bulk and cut cycles even on gear. Recomping is really slow and inefficient.
 
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