Looks too much like a young boy to me. I'd take 20+ year old version of her over that anytime.
1. I need a woman "wit sum meat un er bones" (says the inferior specimen that would never be able to satisfy such a woman). Most incels do not have the dick size nor physical strength to even properly fuck the kind of woman you want, so you are either a fakecel or coping hardcore because having these standards at least makes you "feel like a man"
2. Dude it almost seems like you are saying this sarcastically, what about that even looks remotely masculine, I've never even seen a boy who looks this feminine
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I agree this foid worship has to stop.
I agree, to hell with jailbaits, they're teens who look older. Literally the worst of both worlds. They need to look as if you're really going to jail for fucking them.
So I typed in google "U14 girls" to remind people just how young girls this young look like.
JFL at being attracted to that, yet alone being more attracted to girls this young than to 20 year old women.
JFL at loli worshippers who say: "But average 14 year old is better looking than a 30 year old supermodel"
JFL at being attracted to that, yet alone being more attracted to girls this young than to 20 year old women.
JFL at loli worshippers who say: "But average 14 year old is better looking than a 30 year old supermodel"
So lets see how consistent your logic is, you're also saying - "JFL at being attracted to a 20 year old woman who looks like that"
If its the look of that age group that's unattractive and not the age itself, that means you'd have the same lack of attraction for a 20 year old woman who has the build of one of those girls, right?
If not what you're doing here is just abitrary illogical moralfagging
Its not just about looks, it about the "entire package":
A girl that age is likely a virgin, and has yet to become truly vain or bitter from past experiences with men, so she'll judge your looks less harshly, be more likely to commit, more likely to be sexually satisfied since you are her first and only lover, and less likely to divorce if you should marry (also more likely to produce healthy offspring if you have children)
When you look at what you are getting, in terms of "more bang for your buck", any of those girls is worth more than a 30 year old supermodel, why do you think virgins are worth more on the human trafficking black market, always have been and always will be, its just a fact of reality, most men want young virgins, the men who don't today were mostly affected by modern societal indoctrination to view these desires as something "a real man" shouldn't want
I don't know what you want to say. 20 year olds, on average, look way more developed than these girls. It's very obvious. 14 year olds mostly look just way too young and aren't attractive to me. If a 20 year old girl somehow looked like this, I wouldn't be attracted to her either, because she would look like a 14 year old and I'm not attracted to 14 year olds.
We're talking about attraction here. You're not attracted to virginity (you can only assume that she is a virgin anyway, and you could also assume that a 20 year old girl is a virgin as well), you're attracted to looks. Virginity is important for successful marriage, if you want one.
As an incel, you're not going to get sex so talking about taking a girl's virginity is pretty useless. And if you can (legally) get sex with a virgin girl, what are you even doing here? I don't understand why these young girls need to be put on pedestal just because they're supposedly virgins when you're not going to take their virginity.
Girls lose virginity very young these days, there is absolutely no way you could be sure that a 14 year old girl is a virgin. A virgin would also only be useful for marriage. Do you plan to marry a 14 year old? Because I surely don't at this point, given how marriage is in the West, even if it would be allowed (legal marriagable age is 18 almost everywhere in EU).
A 30 year old supermodel is worth much more than those virgins because if you walked down the street with a supermodel as your girlfriend, your status would boost to such extent you couldn't even imagine.
If you walk down the street with some 14 year old people would either assume she's your daughter or consider you a pedo.
Like seriously, imagine having a 30 year old supermodel as a girlfriend just for few months. The ammount of validation you would get for being able to get a girlfriend like that would be unreal. Sex with a virgin is one time, the statusmaxxing you would get from dating a supermodel would last for a while. Of course, this is all hypothetical because no one here is going to get anything of this, so it's stupid to obsess about it.
Here is her at 16 as a model
At 23 years old:
She got better looking as her body got more developed and more feminine with age.
It's obvious that the 23 year old version of her is better.
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I'm attracted to neotenous features, all men are, you just have your line drawn further ahead, mostly everything to do with the "beauty" of a woman, revolves around neoteny, how young she looks
By that logic talking about if an age group is more attractive to you or not is pretty useless as an incel
I don't understand why these developed women who don't have "boys bodies" need to be put on a pedestal just because they look more curvacioues when you're not going to fuck any of them
Your arguments so far at this point are really self defeating arguments, I don't know how you didn't immediately notice this and delete them from your post - "Why do you care about X, not like you'll get it", it goes both ways you know
Here is her at 16 as a model
At 23 years old:
1. Different outfits, last one when she's 23 is not only a more feminine and attractive colour, but that kind of clothing accentuates her hips, if you are actually looking, there's isn't really much of a difference to her waist to hip ratio, in fact I'd say I can see no difference at all, you are comparing apples to oranges right now
2. Her jaw when she's 23 ironically looks more masculine than when she was 16, looks slightly more pronounced, but again, bad example, barely any changes with this bitch from 16 to 23
Fucking terrifying. I think plastic can raise estrogen in males and females.
I want agematch tbh. Nuffin more.
She looks fresh at 16 and an old granny in the second pic. Not saying I will get a 16 year old ever but yeah.
She looks fresh at 16 and an old granny in the second pic. Not saying I will get a 16 year old ever but yeah.
A lot of men (like @Teutonic Knight ) cope with having the sexual attraction of "a real man" because that's all they really have since they'll never get such a woman. Ironically though they could never physically satisfy such a woman and more likely could satisfy a woman they consider "undeveloped", they literally would reject the only kind of woman that they could satisfy and keep wanting them (so much irony)
But this is the main point. I don't open threads about how I like 20-25 year old women yet plenty of people open threads about wanting "lolis" and "JBs" and even how they wouldn't fuck older women and things like that. Unlike them, I never said that I'm only into 20-25 year old women exclusively. I just find them the most attractive, on average, and I think most men do to.
You said it yourself that I can never get such a woman so why should I care if I can physically satisfy her? Her 20-something year old version satisfied my desires when I fapped to her pics few times, the 16 year old version I couldn't fap to.
I already agreed with you about the thread thing, I think the threads about it should stop, so I don't see the relevance of this argument against me:
Arguing with one "JB lover" doesn't mean you are arguing with all of them, those guys just spam threads and talk about "2D GF IS SUPERIOR", I actually would move to an islamic state to get a JB wife, I do plan on moving to the phillipines or any country with a low enough age of consent to get a JB GF, I'm not just spamming the site about 2D dream fantasies with my loli gif avatar JFL
JFL then why care about this anyways, are you saying you have no plans to get any women then, how are you any different from the JB spammers then (when it comes to having a standard you cling to yet never try to attain)
You aren't spamming threads, but you are pointlessly holding firm to a standard of attractiveness and doing nothing to get it - "Fuck that JB shit, developed women are the best.................. and yes I'm doing nothing to get one but I'll be sure to let those JB chasers know that their fetish is inferior"
If what you want is so great why are you doing nothing to get it, yet what I want is so inferior and I actually plan on getting it, I'd argue it mustn't be that great then, and you just like the feeling that adhering to a "masculine standard" gives you
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Candice barely change at all her features so I don't think she got surgery, however she got better with age, most girls don't but she did, stop saying she looked better at 16 because there's no way you actually believe that. And she doesn't wear that much makeup
I thought "such a woman" referred to the supermodel Candice Swanepoel that we talked about? Of course I can't get a woman like that, doesn't mean I gave up on women as such.
I was very clear in one of the other threads what my realistic plans about women are. I want to find a very athletic tall and strong woman who does sports and I want to have strong male children with her. There are a lot of women here like that, they don't have the highest SMV because most men aren't into them, I have big frame and I'm somewhat tall at 6'0'', I do sports so I hope I will be able to meet some women through that eventually.
I just don't feel the need to constantly post about how I'm "searching" for athletic women.
How bad is your face?, you are 6ft tall and athletic but can't get a woman?
If she looked so much better at 16, why did her modelling career peak at late 20s or whenever? Why are supermodels always in their 20s? Or famous actresses and singers and other women who succeeded because of their looks?
If most men were so attracted to 16 year olds and younger then these 16 year old women would be supermodels, they would win miss world and other beauty contests...
You should just admit it, only few men find "JBs" and young teens more attractive than women in their early 20s.
That's like saying - "if JB are so much more attractive why aren't more men chasing after them, why aren't they the standard of beauty"
BECAUSE SOCIETY SAYS SO, ITS ILLEGAL
Its a very disingenuous argument, you know full well there's all kinds of legal hoha about what age a female can model and what kind of modelling she can do at what age, whether or not she gets authorization from her parent/legal guardian, etc, like come on dude, society dictates what is acceptable, but not what is attractive, that's biology
Right now modern laws and social indoctrination are holding natural male sexuality at bay
Drop the age of consent in any country to 13 right now, and watch women in their mid 20's and 30's experience a significant man shortage after about a decade of that change to the law (it will take time for men to feel alright about chasing such desires again, but it will happen)
Everyone is tall here, average height is only just bellow 6'0'' and that includes older people. I'm autistic as well.
But she was already a model when she was that young, just wasn't as noticed.
What about before society was moralistic on this? Even in the old days young teens weren't seen as the beauty ideal. Like I don't know, Grace Kelly who was in her 20s and back then things weren't so PC. Or even before that. Why didn't the Nazis put JBs on their posters? And so on.
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jfl at moralfags, yes signs of aging is sexual dimorphism and if you’re not attracted to “mature”, “developed” womyn you are not a real man yourself.where have I heard that before? Even though if you never had sex you are not considered a “real man” according to society you still want to appease to normies.
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