SuicideFuel The reason why many men don't go ER but simply kill themselves

[ThisHasToEnd]

Because most men are good people and would rather take their pain out on themselves rather than others.

 

[Wristlet 2]

I dont agree. I think the difference is this. The ones who kill themselves feel like they are the problem. They blame themselves for their inferior genetics and hence decide to put an end to their misery.

The ones who go ER blame soyciety for their problems. They attribute their lack of sexual success to rampant hypergamy and soycietal bluepilled brainwashing.

highest IQ post i've seen all day, 100% agree

personally i'd rope and not go ER, but i'd be happy to see that someone else went ER as long as I'm not a victim obviously

 

[Deleted member 22907]

They don’t hate enough

 

[Kurt Gödel]

Becky is not even the issue, it is life itself, life as a whole, and you have the ability to make it all go away without having to spend a single moment longer in it

 

[Ticcel]

highest IQ post i've seen all day, 100% agree

personally i'd rope and not go ER, but i'd be happy to see that someone else went ER as long as I'm not a victim obviously

Only thing I disagree with is that they kill themseovew because they’re genetically inferior. They kill themselves over feeling guilty about having control over their life, when determinism is a thing

 

[Idotms]

Go ER, then suicide.

 

[Wristlet 2]

Go ER, then suicide.

based

 

[TheReaper]

I'm not even angry,I seriously doubt that killing people would give me any type of relief.
and anyway the final result is always the same(death) so choosing the easier and less painful path seems more resonable.

 

[based_meme]

The dialectic of what is more egoistic -- sui or ER -- is interesting.

There are arguments on both sides that either both are egoist, none, or one and not the other. It really is person-dependent, but there are general differentiable trends that are pronounced between the sexes, as you well know. Men usually attempt suicide because they come from a place of real, deep-seated pain where they feel helpless, whereas women usually attempt suicide out of superficial problems and the need for attention.

These aren't absolutes, of course. You have troubled women who commit suicide because of some life trauma (being raped by their father or whatever), and you have emo faggots who threaten suicide because they're edgy and feel "misunderstood" (kek).

Romanticizing suicide and being depressed/self-loathing appears to be a way of demanding other peoples' intercession and compassion, much like in the instance of an illness, and how people will help those who are sick in the evolutionary environment by making sure they get the attention and healing properties they need.

This would fall under the attention-seeking category.

This is a misguided strategy in the modern era, however, because we live in a psychopathic-negroid 'society' where nobody cares for each other. You only need read about how oldcels literally rot to death in Japan to understand why hikikomoris/NEETs who figuratively rot to death via depression and despair are hopeless for any help, for example.

The absolute state of current society does make the attention seeking strategy sub optimal in theory, but the presence of social media outlets accentuates the prevalence of the strategy. Whether the state of society actually has a noticeably detrimental effect on this strategy, despite the present technology, is something we could explore. Though, I don't see much value in that, beyond pontificating tbh.

But I think that this factors into the exact problem with the ER mentality: it only further exacerbates alienation, rather than counteracting it. This can be seen with how many people responded to the Corona Virus (a literal sickness), finding a pornographic pleasure in the deaths, and wishing for even more. Ironically, some Amerilards justified this view by arguing that Chinese people are "inherently psychopathic" -- unlike themselves, apparently.

I honestly think that the excitement over the corona virus deaths is nothing more than a vicarious ER fantasy. It's a way of feeling "ER" without any of the risks and responsibilities.

I guess it's easier to see trends in others than to see trends in yourself, hence the "arr rook same" mindset, so for a certain type of egoist, he is happy to see someone else die for their perceived decrepitude even though they are just as decrepit themselves, if not more.

So... I think it's mainly a matter of how you're geared, whether towards projection or introspection, imotbh.

This fact is true for a lot of other things as well, including seeing flaws in others easier than in yourself. The mind's own ego protection makes it naturally more difficult and challenging to introspect. It takes effort.

 

[Opus132]

Maybe they don't want to go to hell after enduring misery in this life.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Maybe they don't want to go to hell after enduring misery in this life.

Incels are all going to hell anyway while Chad will go to heaven by default

If there isn't an after life though, going out by doing nothing but roping is VERY cucked.