Serious Was Germany close to winning ww2

[blackpillscience]

Did Germany have any real chance of winning ww2 or were they doomed no matter what they did ? I know the biggest factor was the shortage of oil and the other factor was that they didn’t go into full war economy until 1944

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

If Hitler won we would be like this:

reminder....

 

[Sheldor]

Did Germany have any real chance of winning ww2 or were they doomed no matter what they did ? I know the biggest factor was the shortage of oil and the other factor was that they didn’t go into full war economy until 1944

They were doomed already in 1943

He was way too fast. Should have Played slower.

 

[OwariDa]

@Pixycel do a HOI4 speed run rn starting 1939

 

[Govid_Dorious]

never began

 

[weaselbomber]

No, for a multitude of reasons, but they were extremely close to winning WW1

 

[ControlledInsanity]

Only statesmen won world war II. The only winners of wars are statesmen. When given the opportunity near the end of the war, German soldiers would rush at the allies hoping to be peacefully captured. Normal men don't want to fight and kill other men.

 

[idfklma]

Shouldnt have invaded poland

 

[Retardfuel]

If Americans didn't intervene they would have won

 

[NorthernWind]

it was germany vs the whole world

Cope. Japan, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, Finland, Croatia etc. was on the German side. Spain, Sweden, Turkey would probably join Germany if Germans were successful.

 

[NorthernWind]

If Americans didn't intervene they would have won

They already lost in 1941 when they failed to capture Moscow.

 

[AsiaCel]

Yes and no.

If UK and USA didn't intervented, the Germans actually stood a good chance of victory. Their definition of victory would be the AA line, with ReichKomssiarist Caucasus being their furthest point. Some had also proposed ReichKomssiarist Turkestan (central Asia).

But as soon the allies intervented, it was over. The Soviets relied a lot on American land lease aid (half tracks, MREs, trucks, etc etc)

 

[AsiaCel]

Yes and no.

If UK and USA didn't intervented, the Germans actually stood a good chance of victory. Their definition of victory would be the AA line, with ReichKomssiarist Caucasus being their furthest point. Some had also proposed ReichKomssiarist Turkestan (central Asia).

But as soon the allies intervented, it was over. The Soviets relied a lot on American land lease aid (half tracks, MREs, trucks, etc etc)

However, that plan depend a lot on USSR surrendering, which is super unlikely as (according to mainstream sources) Germany's goal is to expand living space for the Aryans, meaning they'll fight guerilla warfare against the Soviet remainings (whether union crumbled or not) for years to come.

The elite Siberian divisions would be nightmare to fight, as in what happened in our timeline. And any further from the AA line is undeveloped shithole so if you think tigers getting stuck in the ice was bad, it will be nothing compared to vast land of emptiness of Siberia.

 

[iblamemyself]

it was germany vs the whole world

As usual

They pretty much fucked themselves after hitler got arrogant and started making rash decisions

I think the worst mistake was sending military to Russia. That’s when Russians, who had previously feared the SS and had thought of them as superhumans, realized they could beat them.

But the whole thing was doomed from the start. Adolf Hitler, or the actors that played him, were funded by Jews, I think JP Morgan. The rich Jews wanted the non-rich Jews to brutally die, so that they can turn themselves into a victim class and use accusations of “anti-semitism” as a shield to deflect criticism.

 

[suicidecase]

They fukt up when they invaded Russia. Identity politics always leads to failure. The Nazis couldn't overcome their ideological hatred for Slavs.

But they were doomed to fail anyway. The US would have just nuked Germany like they did Japan.

 

[Rotter]

They fukt up when they invaded Russia. Identity politics always leads to failure. The Nazis couldn't overcome their ideological hatred for Slavs.

But they were doomed to fail anyway. The US would have just nuked Germany like they did Japan.

 

[CrackingYs]

They had a chance at winning early on in the war in 1940 if they attacked Dunkirk and wiped out the entire British army. They would probably have had to attack England by air and really kick their ass and force them to sign a peace treaty. Then they also would have had to not attack Russia.

Sadly we do not exist in the quantum universe where this happened. Instead Hitler fucked up big time, and didn't attack Dunkirk and tried fighting a two-front war and lost.

 

[Shrek]

If they would have had a nuclear bomb ,they would have won .

Otherwise no