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The definition of ascension can vary for many. Aside from pure sex there are many things that normscum in relationships get to indulge in that I don't. Arguably I yearn for these little symbols of romantic attraction more than sex; in fact I think sex is the weakest facet of ascension - for me the whole hugging, hand-holding and romantic aspect is in reality what I yearn for. If sex was all ascension was sure, I could just go to a prostitute and get it over and done with... I want cuddles and other such expressions of affection!
What aspects of a relationship do you yearn for the most?
Sex, Someone to spend time with and Romantic activities
Cuddles would make me uncomfortable because people only get close to me when they are about to beat me up
Sex, Someone to spend time with and Romantic activities
Cuddles would make me uncomfortable because people only get close to me when they are about to beat me up
The definition of ascension can vary for many. Aside from pure sex there are many things that normscum in relationships get to indulge in that I don't. Arguably I yearn for these little symbols of romantic attraction more than sex; in fact I think sex is the weakest facet of ascension - for me the whole hugging, hand-holding and romantic aspect is in reality what I yearn for. If sex was all ascension was sure, I could just go to a prostitute and get it over and done with... I want cuddles and other such expressions of affection!
What aspects of a relationship do you yearn for the most?
The definition of ascension can vary for many. Aside from pure sex there are many things that normscum in relationships get to indulge in that I don't. Arguably I yearn for these little symbols of romantic attraction more than sex; in fact I think sex is the weakest facet of ascension - for me the whole hugging, hand-holding and romantic aspect is in reality what I yearn for. If sex was all ascension was sure, I could just go to a prostitute and get it over and done with... I want cuddles and other such expressions of affection!
What aspects of a relationship do you yearn for the most?
I get it, I really do.
I'd like to feel as if I'm worth something to someone.
Foids could never understand as they are told they have worth constantly.
An incel is constantly told how worthless they are by everyone around them.
I just crave cuddles and stability.
Really? That's terrible! AI wives are the only way.
The expectations of men and women have diverged too much. Foids want to be dominant and gain status and have the upper hand now but are repulsed by things that aren't 'dominant' and 'manly' enough... It simply doesn't work.
All I want is to spend all day wrapped up in snug cuddles. A pipe dream because I will never ascend. I'm sure my lack of masculinity has something to do with this. They say those with autism tend to be more androgynous. I don't see any point in pretending to be some sex-hungry 'alpha male' or whatever when I'm never going to get any anyway... I think that's actually a huge part of why wars and such occur to begin with. A lot of men only act in abrasive and 'masculine' ways because it's what garners the most female attention. A shame.
“[Lovers] are the people who finish out their lives together and still cannot say what it is they want from one another. No one would think it is the intimacy of sex—that mere sex is the reason each lover takes so great and deep a joy in being with the other. It’s obvious that the soul of every lover longs for something else; his soul cannot say what it is, but like an oracle it has a sense of what it wants, and like an oracle it hides behind a riddle. Suppose two lovers are lying together and Hephaestus stands over them with his mending tools, asking, ‘What is it you human beings really want from each other?’ And suppose they’re perplexed, and he asks them again, ‘Is this your heart’s desire, then—for the two of you to become parts of the same whole, as near as can be, and never to separate, day or night? Because if that’s your desire, I’d like to weld you together and join you into something that is naturally whole, so that the two of you are made into one. Then the two of you would share one life, as long as you lived, because you would be one being, and by the same token, when you died, you would be one and not two in Hades, having died a single death. Look at your love, and see if this is what you desire: Wouldn’t this be all the good fortune you could want?’"
Everything except the social benefits. I do not give three fucks what normscum think of me they can collectively stuff a volcano’s mouth shut with their corpses.
“[Lovers] are the people who finish out their lives together and still cannot say what it is they want from one another. No one would think it is the intimacy of sex—that mere sex is the reason each lover takes so great and deep a joy in being with the other. It’s obvious that the soul of every lover longs for something else; his soul cannot say what it is, but like an oracle it has a sense of what it wants, and like an oracle it hides behind a riddle. Suppose two lovers are lying together and Hephaestus stands over them with his mending tools, asking, ‘What is it you human beings really want from each other?’ And suppose they’re perplexed, and he asks them again, ‘Is this your heart’s desire, then—for the two of you to become parts of the same whole, as near as can be, and never to separate, day or night? Because if that’s your desire, I’d like to weld you together and join you into something that is naturally whole, so that the two of you are made into one. Then the two of you would share one life, as long as you lived, because you would be one being, and by the same token, when you died, you would be one and not two in Hades, having died a single death. Look at your love, and see if this is what you desire: Wouldn’t this be all the good fortune you could want?’"
I think you can only admire and cherish certain traits because they are separate from yourself. If you merge with someone else and love them dearly still, that would be narcissism!
I am acutely aware of the fact that my preferences can be explained solely through evolutionary psychology.
Still, that doesn't prevent me from wanting such a thing.
I get it, I really do.
I'd like to feel as if I'm worth something to someone.
Foids could never understand as they are told they have worth constantly.
An incel is constantly told how worthless they are by everyone around them.
I just crave cuddles and stability.
And who would we get it from? The same people who beat us down our entire lives.
I think even if by some divine intervention I did ascend (beat with me) I probably just wouldn’t be able to believe them. There would always be a voice in my mind telling me it’s a trick.
A best friend I can hug and talk to about vidya and anime all day. Someone I can be with forever through thick and thin, like we're glued together at the hip. Also, going on night walks while holding her hand like you mentioned, going to different places, having fun, laughing. Someone I can grow old with and always be with until the very end. I'll probably mourn her death every single day of my life until I also die. I'll keep her pictures in my bedroom and look at them every time I wake up. Hopefully, by the time we're both old, life extension has come along and we can live more... I don't know. Maybe we'll be able to upload our consciousness or something and I'll be with her forever. Maybe we can even have completely robotical bodies and our minds are uploaded into them. What's beautiful about that is we might not have the same identical physical forms we used to have, but even like this, I'll still love her for who she is beneath the skin (or metal). It's like her essence is still in the machine even though our physical vehicles have long passed away and deteriorated before that, sort of like the "Reincarnation Romance" trope, where the lovers are born again and again as different people, but they are so intrinsically linked by the universe that they keep meeting each other and falling in love. Even though we don't have physical bodies, the love does not fade.
Arguably, the most romantic thing is to die with your lover in an impoverished state. I remember I saw a video where a woman was hit by a car and was dying, but her boyfriend or husband was trying to crawl to her as his guts spilled out (he was hit too) and he died before he reached her. Of course, something less gruesome would be ideal—like dying in the cold holding each other (what's interesting is with low temperatures, you'll actually get mummification, so you might be stuck in that position for eternity [like the dead Mt. Everest climbers] until someone decides to take your bodies out of there).
Sorry, I know this is sappy.
This is not possible because women are psychopaths and they will never show you undying affection and love; everything is conditional. The only sort of loyalty this deep I've seen is with life-long male best friends.
A best friend I can hug and talk to about vidya and anime all day. Someone I can be with forever through thick and thin, like we're glued together at the hip. Also, going on night walks while holding her hand like you mentioned, going to different places, having fun, laughing. Someone I can grow old with and always be with until the very end. I'll probably mourn her death every single day of my life until I also die. I'll keep her pictures in my bedroom and look at them every time I wake up. Hopefully, by the time we're both old, life extension has come along and we can live more... I don't know. Maybe we'll be able to upload our consciousness or something and I'll be with her forever. Maybe we can even have completely robotical bodies and our minds are uploaded into them. What's beautiful about that is we might not have the same identical physical forms we used to have, but even like this, I'll still love her for who she is beneath the skin (or metal). It's like her essence is still in the machine even though our physical vehicles have long passed away and deteriorated before that, sort of like the "Reincarnation Romance" trope, where the lovers are born again and again as different people, but they are so intrinsically linked by the universe that they keep meeting each other and falling in love. Even though we don't have physical bodies, the love does not fade.
Arguably, the most romantic thing is to die with your lover in an impoverished state. I remember I saw a video where a woman was hit by a car and was dying, but her boyfriend or husband was trying to crawl to her as his guts spilled out (he was hit too) and he died before he reached her. Of course, something less gruesome would be ideal—like dying in the cold holding each other (what's interesting is with low temperatures, you'll actually get mummification, so you might be stuck in that position for eternity [like the dead Mt. Everest climbers] until someone decides to take your bodies out of there).
Sorry, I know this is sappy.
This is not possible because women are psychopaths and they will never show you undying affection and love; everything is conditional. The only sort of loyalty this deep I've seen is with life-long male best friends.
Read every word. Yes, I yearn for that kind of depth of romance too.
Being able to wholly trust someone and to wholeheartedly love them without having to worry that the love will be tossed aside...
If I were able to live like that I think it would make me a lot happier.
As other users have pointed out, however... women tend to be turned off by sappy things like that.
Even if I were to somehow make friends with a foid, I am too unattractive to ever be viewed as a lifelong lover of all things.
A best friend I can hug and talk to about vidya and anime all day. Someone I can be with forever through thick and thin, like we're glued together at the hip. Also, going on night walks while holding her hand like you mentioned, going to different places, having fun, laughing. Someone I can grow old with and always be with until the very end. I'll probably mourn her death every single day of my life until I also die. I'll keep her pictures in my bedroom and look at them every time I wake up. Hopefully, by the time we're both old, life extension has come along and we can live more... I don't know. Maybe we'll be able to upload our consciousness or something and I'll be with her forever. Maybe we can even have completely robotical bodies and our minds are uploaded into them. What's beautiful about that is we might not have the same identical physical forms we used to have, but even like this, I'll still love her for who she is beneath the skin (or metal). It's like her essence is still in the machine even though our physical vehicles have long passed away and deteriorated before that, sort of like the "Reincarnation Romance" trope, where the lovers are born again and again as different people, but they are so intrinsically linked by the universe that they keep meeting each other and falling in love. Even though we don't have physical bodies, the love does not fade.
Arguably, the most romantic thing is to die with your lover in an impoverished state. I remember I saw a video where a woman was hit by a car and was dying, but her boyfriend or husband was trying to crawl to her as his guts spilled out (he was hit too) and he died before he reached her. Of course, something less gruesome would be ideal—like dying in the cold holding each other (what's interesting is with low temperatures, you'll actually get mummification, so you might be stuck in that position for eternity [like the dead Mt. Everest climbers] until someone decides to take your bodies out of there).
Sorry, I know this is sappy.
This is not possible because women are psychopaths and they will never show you undying affection and love; everything is conditional. The only sort of loyalty this deep I've seen is with life-long male best friends.
I wish foids were capable of unconditional love, unfortunately that's only possible in fiction this is exactly the kind of relationship I wanna have with a toilet. I would be scared to even get to know one though, their attraction changes like the wind and their love is fickle. I would probably give her the ick and she would leave my retarded ass.
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