1) How do you undo the socialization (no redpill bullshit please)
You don't need to undo anything you just to finally accept that it isn't real
I don't get it, if your whole life you thought 1+1=11 because you've never been exposed to or done math, and then I show you math and prove to you that 1+1=2, and you now believe me, what is there to "undo"
You've already been exposed to the black pill, you already know the blue pill you've been fed all your life was false
What do you need to undo?
The answer is nothing, what you need to do is finally accept everything you believed was fake, that's it, and if you can't do that, then you are still attached to the blue pilled world, there are things in that world you still appreciate and believe to be true and you don't want to let go
There's nothing that can be done for someone like that, its as simple as you accept something to be false or you still believe it to be true
There's nothing to undo, many men just don't want to let go of the past, that's their fault and their problem
and 2) if you want to clearly distinguish between biological needs and socialized wants, why don't you say that directly instead of saying "IT is a choice', where it could be anything?
I don't, maybe I'm expecting too much from you based on the context of the argument (the context you initiated) and my preceding statements, it could never be "anything" in the context of the argument
You said:
Having a girl makes life worth living and otherwise ambition is zero. We're just programmed to be that way, it's not a choice
Then I responded with:
So in that context I obviously mean that it is a choice to have ambition whether you have "a girl" or not and were not programmed to have zero ambition just because we don't currently have a woman
3) Since affection's socialized and it can't be undone or is dangerous to do so (rape laws etc), does affection matter and is it different from sex as a craving?
Of course its different, and affection itself doesn't matter, but the appearance of affection does matter for keeping up modern day social appearances and obviously not going to jail lol
Rape is not the only means of circumventing affection though, if yo have money you can circumvent it in many ways:
Prostitution
Go to a 3rd world country and pay a father for his daughter to marry you (if you are still that desperate just to get married to fit into society, you'd have to stay in that country though)
Think of all these known celebrity couples where one has been caught cheating, the other partner has to pretend that they are "muh healing and working through things" and say that shit publicly but they are arguing and fighting when cameras and people aren't around
Also nobody craves affection, what they crave IS WHAT AFFECTION IMPLIES
As men we've been raised to mentally associate receiving affection from women as something that affirms our masculinity, something that validates our manhood, so what you actually crave is to "feel like a man", since your manhood is psychologically tied to how women perceive you, failure to attain a favorable perception from women will leave you feeling like you failed yourself and your family, this is why being an incel in these times is so depressing
If you were born in times before rape laws, for example, as part of a raider tribe, you would not give a fuck. Women finding you ugly would annoy and anger you, not depress you, and either way you'd just claim a wife by force during a raid, none of that shit would even matter
4) How do you plan to handle or rebut all the feminism-brainwashed women who complain that all men care about is sex and thus brush you off/pre-reject you for being horny, not even giving you a chance because you come on too strong or desperate (aka being honest as opposed to the cucked stuff you seem to think I'm promoting)?
JFL no wonder you asked "How do you undo socialization", like I said you really are clinging onto the blue pilled world
You actually think I plan on approaching and dating women?
If that is still your plan, then you haven't accepted the black pill or you know to yourself that you aren't really incel and you are good looking enough to still have a chance
There's nothing to "handle" because I won't be taking part in that rigged game
I'm going to wealthmax (get rich), move to a 3rd world country like the phillipines or thailand, and fuck whores while pursuing other business ventures and enjoying various leisure activities
I don't know how you don't get it yet, but if you are in your 20's and never had sex with a willing woman,
ITS OVER, the game is over for you, trying to take part is nothing but desperation and lack of honesty with yourself, this game was not meant for you, you can keep playing and keep losing, or you can play a different game
All I can do is wish you luck, but the path you are pursuing will likely just lead to you being some 50+ year old virgin who still posts on this forum years from now
