Rape is not bad jfl it’s just a consequence of foids too high standards
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I guess
This but unironically. Can't expect sex starved men to not revolt.
Yea tbh it’s fucked up that soyciety expects us to live sexless lives while foids have their pick of men and sex without consequence
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Hi cucktears o/
keep lurking greycel, one day you may be worthy to post on this website
Traditional times are over and gone, there is no more going back. I just want the degeneracy and inceldom to keep increasing. The media and researchers can only ignore or turn around these scenarios for so long until they have to acknowledge the blackpill. The collapse, although it wont happen, will be quite nice to witness.
Women don’t care avout rape; they care about who has sex with who and rape baiting guides exist for a reason.
Gang banging, rape and bestiality are the top 3 female fantasies as shown by porn statistics; women can’t even orgasm when having consensual monogamous sex with their husbands.
I’m not the type who commits literal rape; I’m a literal volcel. Rape may however be quite moral.
Gang banging, rape and bestiality are the top 3 female fantasies as shown by porn statistics; women can’t even orgasm when having consensual monogamous sex with their husbands.
I’m not the type who commits literal rape; I’m a literal volcel. Rape may however be quite moral.
these things are not set in stone. we are not moving towards collapse but further enslavement. And even if the collapse does happen, it would most likely result in a rape fest
high iq
elab
IT IS, given the right circumstances surrounding it
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I guess enslavement is the right word for our situation. The rich are getting richer and nowdays, the elites control basically everything and everyone. The governments everywhere are becoming more and more cucked, some places like China and Russia have an incredibly corrupt regime whose presidents have way too much power. People are losing power and freedom as a whole rapidly. Stupid ideologies like feminism are bringing more retardism into the already stupid clown world. I dont know what will happen in the next 10 years, but it will definately get worse.
They are taking our freedom and capital resources. Earlier they would allow us to atleast bear children so they can never run out of slaves. Now they don't even need that, so they take away women from us as well. If and when we get to have sex, it will be painted as rape. If you live in first world, our own women even one's in our families are fucking chad at young age. Ask @ShadowTheEdgehog
I am living in the west but thankfully my family is traditional and we all have a strong bond with each other. They are the biggest lifefuel for me.
Rape is a spectrum. If it's a crazy rape like in the Nanking massacre, or even 13 Reasons Why Broomstick rape, I consider than worse than murder. If it's a stupid thing where the woman was drunk and didn't intend to consent, that used to not even be a crime.
FALSE COMPARISON
Comparing "Heterosexual Female Rape" To "Homosexual Male Rape" Is Fallacious (4 IncelTears)
I made a thread recently in relation to female rape (https://incels.is/threads/its-over-even-for-rapists.94560/) and I was surprised to see users of this site giving cliche easily disputed normie tier arguments, I think its a kind of argument that gets used a lot and it never really gets...
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There's no such thing as rape.
Rape = when an ugly male has sex with a foid and then she later regrets it.
Rape = when an ugly male has sex with a foid and then she later regrets it.
the "bash her in the head with a rock and she might die" kind of rape is a lot worse than the "hold her down and she has some slight bruising on her wrists the next day or two" kind tbh
But somehow all have the same punishment in law
Not really, injury is definitely a factor in the sentencing phase
Lol yeah. I didn't think it through.
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Based Swedish laws.
Lol have you been reading stuff by F Roger Devlin?
Don't know who that is. My read if he has something interesting to say about this.
Actual rape is incredibly messed up, but not soyciety's definition of ""rape."" I wouldn't wish it on anyone, male or female except for those that do it.
He's a Stormfront faggot who happens to agree with us when to comes to feminism
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I've said before that consent is a feminist meme designed to control and punish sub 8 males. Nothing more.
To see how ridiculous it can get, just look at the idea of "withdrawing consent" post facto aka she sobered up and saw that a sub 8 subhuman had sex with her and not the chadlite/chad she thought it was.
Yes, it most definitely is a meme. What I'm wondering is how it originated.
To see how ridiculous it can get, just look at the idea of "withdrawing consent" post facto aka she sobered up and saw that a sub 8 subhuman had sex with her and not the chadlite/chad she thought it was.
Yes, it most definitely is a meme. What I'm wondering is how it originated.
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Never said you'd be the one getting penetrated. Point is logically you know you wouldn't like to be forced to have sex with someone against your will. And, as low as some incels standards might be, there is some unholy creature out there even folks around here wouldn't put their dick anywhere close to.
Facts
Rape is bad
I think rape is bad anyways
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It is, but people make it look even worse than it really is.
Also, being raped as a straight male, child, virgin or married woman is worse than being raped as a promiscuous woman or homosexual. Just as being punched in the face as a person who never fought is worse than as a pro boxer.
And no, rape is not "about power", IT. Power doesn't make men's penises hard, sexual arousement does.
Also, being raped as a straight male, child, virgin or married woman is worse than being raped as a promiscuous woman or homosexual. Just as being punched in the face as a person who never fought is worse than as a pro boxer.
And no, rape is not "about power", IT. Power doesn't make men's penises hard, sexual arousement does.
That's the most obvious implication of "being fucked", now you can pretend like that wasn't what you were implying and be disingenous but everyone knew full well what you were implying
Nobody likes anything being done to them by force, thanks for stating the obvious, the point is logically you know me and any other man on this forum would get over it quite easily if a landwhale drugged us and fucked us and made us cum, it wouldn't be this "life changing" trauma because "how dare a subhuman make me orgasm or touch me sexually", we'd be disturbed by it, then we'd find the humor in it (like with everything else in our life), and we'd get over it pretty quickly, heck some of us might go track down the landwhale and do a revenge rape (I know I would JFL)
That's because for men, sex isn't this bargaining chip, it isn't this "thing were hoarding", it isn't this "shrodinger's cunt" that is "just for fun" and "sacred" whenever we decided its convenient (women can give Chad anal in a club bathroom stall but when they get raped in the alleyway outside the club all of a sudden something "sacred" was "violated")
For men, sex is something scarce and hard to get to begin with
Its like being in a desert, dehydrated (thirsty as fuck lol), and someone runs up with a bottle of water, pins you down and starts pouring it down your throat
It'll hurt, it'll be annoying, but it'll still be refreshing lol, seeing as were dehydrated in a desert we'd get over it quite easily, its like "free water, dirty water, but whatever"
Yes and this is nothing but a red herring, because the average woman doesn't look like that and the average male rapist is AVERAGE LOOKING
You have to realize that even if you didn't directly imply penetration you literally proving another point I stated in the thread, that women liken having unwilling sex with an average man to a man enduring an incomparably horrible sexual experience (being fucked like a woman, or fucking an extremely ugly woman)
You are basically comparing a woman being forced to have sex with an AVERAGE MAN to a man being forced to have sex with "some unholy creature", AND PRETENDING AS IF THAT IS A VALID AND FAIR COMPARISON
It isn't, you are only proving my point, why didn't your scenario include me being forced to have sex with an "average looking woman", women are being raped by "average looking men" so why did you have to go that far outside the scope?
You literally have no point at all, you are comparing apples to oranges
The average woman gets raped by an average looking man
If an average looking woman tied you down/drugged you and forced you to penetrate, and rode you till she reached orgasm, would that be an eternally traumatizing experience for you?
Me speaking personally, I wouldn't mind, and I'd actually be glad afterwards, heck I might go and try to find the bitch
The thing is when you guys are thinking - "I wouldn't like to be raped either" you are always thinking about you being raped by a man, or you being raped by some extremely ugly woman, which is a false comparison to begin with, because:
1. You aren't a woman, penetrative sex (on the receiving end) is not something you are built for or accustomed to
2. The average woman isn't being raped by hideous beasts, its by average looking men and in a lot of cases chads
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In an ideal society it is terrible, but in our current hypergamous society, it's to be expected due to the amount of young men rotting with no sexual outlet due to whores being banned in most nations
I know feminist cancer has tried to loosely define rape and apply it to regular sex which is strange. Even if we follow the real definition of rape, it being bad or good is irrelevant. Rape will be natural response that some men will have to inceldom due to society continuing to become more gynocentric and demonizing us.
R*pe is bad because you ruin for the other guys
for example
you R*pe a girl now she no virgin and other men dont want her this = one less woman now 2 men will fight for 1 woman because 1 less woman
for example
you R*pe a girl now she no virgin and other men dont want her this = one less woman now 2 men will fight for 1 woman because 1 less woman
rape is a myth
This site is essentially dedicated to dudes who have been unfairly fucked over by society because of their unfortunate looks or reasons beyond their ability to change. It shouldn't come as a surprise that life isn't fair. My argument was one of empathy and offering a method of satisfaction that doesn't lead men to rape, likely fucking up their own lives as well at the lives of others.
If your mind is dead set on rape, you'll find any number of ways to excuse it. I'm just stating the obvious that there is another way to go about getting your dick wet that doesn't involve risking getting shipped off to prison or scarring somebody else.
Apple to Oranges or not, I doubt you'd like to be held down and fucked or having someone you know raped either.
Finding ways to moneymaxx and paying women to please you > 5 minutes of pleasure with the risk of getting shipped to prison.
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Yes, just as a lion wouldn't like to be eaten nor have any of its kin eaten, but at the end of the day a lion is still a lion, its a predator all the same, there is no contradiction here, its you misunderstanding nature and the roles that lie therein, in this life there is predator and prey, you get to choose which one you are for the most part, most people just choose to be prey
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Forced penetration with no violence or pregnancy involved should not be a crime at all.
It's not a misunderstanding; I wouldn't encourage men to risk their freedom for a nut.
Lions don't have law enforcement and prisons, humans do.
Most people don't choose to be prey; lions hunt gazelles in broad daylight because they're actually predators and gazelles are actually prey. Try to rape someone in public and see what results you get.
"Forced penetration" implies violence.
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Depends on how you define rape. Like, a girl having sex with an ugly guy.
Only a risk if you leave the woman alive with your DNA there
Lions also do not have the know how to drug their females and clean up DNA evidence, which any man can acquire
Most people do choose to be prey, you are making a false comparison, every human is a lion, but in peaceful times most just opt to play the role of gazelle, nobody is born prey, they are raised to be prey and even while becoming aware of that they choose to remain prey
Thanks for stating the obvious, you seem to be missing the point though, and its partly my fault as I've let you stray this far off to see where it goes, but I was never telling men to go out and rape, my arguments had to do with the topic of this thread, that rape "isn't really such a bad thing", you are veering off into "don't advocate that men rape", I'm not doing that, I really just humoring the direction you are taking the argument, but at the end of the day, it isn't really such a bad thing, just like OP said
Its way less violent of an act than a group of Chads gangbanging said female being passed around like a ragdoll, yet somehow that is acceptable
Like I said before, women like to pick and choose when something is a violation or not, it can't work that way, that isn't logical and it isn't consistent, and that makes it prone to bias and in a way "corruption" as women are the "higher class" hoarding a resource and controlling its distribution (the rich get richer)
I can't DECIDE that someone stabbing me isn't an assault
I can't DECIDE that someone taking my belongings at gun point isn't robbery
Etc, etc, etc
YET SOCIETY LETS WOMEN DECIDE WHEN IT IS THAT RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT TAKES PLACE, EVEN WHEN THE SAME ACTS ARE COMMITTED BY TWO DIFFERENT MEN
Chad forces his tongue down her throat - "he's being forceful, kinky"
Average/below average man forces his tongue down her throat - "help, I'm being raped"
IT CAN'T WORK LIKE THAT, IN THAT WORLD, I SUPPORT RAPISTS, BECAUSE EVERY WOMAN COMPLICITY IN THAT KIND OF CULTURE HAS ALREADY ASSERTED MY ROLE AS A RAPIST TO THEM, AS MY "ADVANCES" WILL ALWAYS BE TREATED AS ASSAULT
If you decide I'm a monster, then I will gladly play my role to your detriment
What is rape? - having sex with a man you don't want to
What is prostitution - having sex with a man you don't want to for money
I find it funny how easily "the most unspeakable act" becomes completely acceptable and not traumatizing at all, the moment a woman accepts payment for it
Do you think whores aren't being fucked "roughly"?, they are, and by multiple men, day in and day out, violated, but for some reason, like magic, there is no "trauma" like the woman who gets raped once in an alleyway or gets "date raped", now ask yourself, WHY IS THAT?
Its simple really, in one case the woman felt like she was duly cpmpensated, in the other she felt like she was robbed of something, that's the only difference, the difference between rape and prostitution is the feeling of being compensated (be that validation from males she desires or money, its the lack of compensation that women see as the violation, not the act itself)
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Seems like a lot of work for a nut. Easier to cop an escort for an hour.
Most people choose to be civil. It keeps society running.
As opposed to doing what? Blatantly displaying predatory behavior?
Costs money, how about I split it down the middle, snatch the purses of the women you would have raped and use the cash you steal from them to pay for whores and escorts (everybody wins)
JFL if you care if society falls apart, people like me are good either way, if society falls apart I'll descend along with it and adapt to the new chaotic world all the same, just as I have adapted to this world which is just a rat race towards wealth
Heck I'd enjoy the world where society is destroyed more, the rules are simpler and straight forward
Who said anything about display, you keep propping up this strawman of doing things publicly and getting caught, real life doesn't work like that, there are many career criminals who have never been caught, because they don't get greedy and they are always careful
A true predator hunts in secret anyways, a true predator is the one you don't know is a predator
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lmao, now this is some shit I can get behind.
I'm not upset that I can cope in relative peace and security in the plush modern world. But, if society is going to collapse I want to be a God of the wastelands not some survivalcuck being hunted and robbed by marauder chads. Prep for the worst, hope for the best.
Yes.
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No
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JFL, OP cares so much about "pedophilia" that is about pubescent girls, so it's actually hebephilia, making this website look bad.
Yet he makes this thread which has been posted 1000x times and is easy IT bait.
complete hypocritical trolling faggot
Yet he makes this thread which has been posted 1000x times and is easy IT bait.
complete hypocritical trolling faggot
Lol idgaf about shit like that. I defend my points with reason.
If anything, if you care about normie opinions that much, I actually make the site look good.
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i don't care for normie opinions, they will hate ugly men no matter what
but this thread is downplaying rape, the act of physical sexual assault and forcing sex
my thread was about mere attraction, not actions
so logically speaking this thread should be worse.
yet then again normies are super sensitive to "pedo" hysteria so they might like this thread better
I don't condone pedo attraction just like I don't condone homo attraction.
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