Serious Sex As A Woman Is Not An Easy Task (Especially In This Modern Era) - Lets Be Honest

[mänline]

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

Women face also the expectation that they will be faithful, kind, submissive, kind, housecleaners, kitchen chefs, child raisers, modest.
Wonder, why the man's expectation to be a slut in the sheets is the only one, they decide to fulfill. Even if it is a sacrifice and effort for them, I bet many men would renounce crazy sex stuff for a better wive in total.

 

[ReallyRice]

Sounds cucked tbh

 

[BlkPillPres]

I doubt most men are even "allowed" to have any expectations of sex from females, even their own wifes and gfs

Cuck mindset, there's no such thing as "allow", you either get what you want or you leave the relationship, if you stay its your fault, you can't blame women for you being a coward with no spine

Also bumping fearofeight's answer because you never responded to it.

1. I have him blocked

2. He did not read the thread, because he is strawmanning my argument, I never said they didn't enjoy it, please advise the idiot to don't respond to my threads if he isn't going to read, but I blocked him for a reason I'm sure, so he can avoid responding to my threads period because I doubt he has anything of worth to say lol

The dude is literally there arguing against a ghost, I'm reading his response and I'm confused, @Fearofeight , stay the fuck out of my threads if you aren't going to read JFL (LEARN TO READ)

I bet many men would renounce crazy sex stuff for a better wive in total.

I wouldn't, for me marriage = an investment to have consistent access to sexual resources

I don't need someone to cook, clean, etc for me, I'm not an invalid, a woman's only worth to me is to give me what I can't provide for myself, the sexual satisfaction of using a woman's holes

A wife who won't satisfy me sexually is basically a maid, and I would never pay someone to do what I can do in a weekend, either way when you live on your own your place never really gets dirty

 

[based_meme]

Could’ve just said “Sex work is real work “ and saved himself the even bigger embarrassment of writing three text walls justifying it.

tbh

This is just a long-winded justification of that damn phrase.

OK, OP, what's the real point of saying this? Say our minds are changed on the issue. What now? We would just be saying shit like, "whores love to work chad's cock and fuck him like a pornstar, while sub8 normies and escortcels get boring starfish sex," which we all know is the case for the most part.

 

[BlkPillPres]

tbh

This is just a long-winded justification of that damn phrase

Nope, learn to read please guys, why is it so hard for you guys to read, its the simplest thing in the world

WHAT I MEANT IS WHAT I SAID

OK, OP, what's the real point of saying this?

I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

Say our minds are changed on the issue. What now?

What now?, now you know the truth, the end lol, I addressed a falsehood because I kept hearing it over and over and its obviously false so I wanted to address it, that's the impetus for most of my threads

while sub8 normies and escortcels get boring starfish sex," which we all know is the case for the most part

Escortcels get the sex that they:
1. Pay for
2. Negotiate
3. Demand

If you get starfish sex, its because you let yourself get starfish sex, you wouldn't go to a restaurant and order a 2 course meal, and then when the waiter brings one course to your table you stay quiet like a bitch just to go complain to your friends afterwards about the bad experience, you'd immediately ask the waiter where is your second course and demand that it be brought to your table

Yet ironically you guys don't have that attitude for sex, but you'd have it forfucking food lol. Stop complaining about starfish sex, I'm tired of hearing about it, if you get starfish sex, its because you let yourself get starfish sex, the first whore I fucked couldn't pull that shit with me, I knew what I wanted and I did what I wanted, I demanded it, I was assertive

You guys need to stop acting as if being a bitch/beta is common for most men and its the whores duty to not try and scam you, do you think a woman wants your incel dick down her throat?, obvious no, so shove it down her throat and let her know her place lol

Truth is most of you guys are just fucking pathetic, and ITS BY CHOICE

I ALSO ALREADY RESPONDED TO THIS NONSENSE IN THE THREAD:

I'm always seeing users going on and on about "starfish sex", but that's something that certain men allow, if you aren't demanding better sex from the get go in a relationship (or from a prostitute you are paying) then its your fault if you get "starfish sex"

 

[based_meme]

Alright, so you just want us to acknowledge that sucking dick and taking dick takes effort?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Alright, so you just want us to acknowledge that sucking dick and taking dick takes effort?

Acknowledge that sex for women isn't easy or effortless, all you'll see are guys on this site saying is - "they do nothing, its effortless, they should want to fuck me for free" when it comes to prostitutes or the average woman period, and that's just ridiculous, if you think about what it really entails, it isn't easy at all

Oh and the most weird and cliche sentence of all is - "Why should I pay a woman to just exist", as though choking on dick and getting fucked in the ass is "part of existence", you aren't paying whores to "just exist", that would be you paying a woman to just sit in a room with you and do nothing

Post has nothing to do with whether its "real work" or not, it just has to do with the fact that it requires significant effort and that's why you are paying that much for it, and if you want better rates, then leave your country, if not accept the crappy rates

 

[based_meme]

I never expected you of all people to be a defender of "sex workers."

Amazing.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I never expected you of all people to be a defender of "sex workers."

There's nothing being defended, I'm stating a fact, I'm just not a biased idiot like yourself who needs every thread to be a "I hate woman, woman bad" thread

I don't hate women, I hate all humans, I hate humanity itself, that's why I can be unbiased

You guys just hate women because they rejected you, you'd never be saying shit like this if one woman even kissed you on the cheek this evening and told you you had a chance and to keep trying lol, every single one of you guys is one good female experience away from renouncing the black pill

I hate all people regardless of how they treat me, this species is trash, and you are a good example of why

 

[based_meme]

There's nothing being defended, I'm stating a fact, I'm just not a biased idiot like yourself who needs every thread to be a "I hate woman, woman bad" thread

I don't need every thread to be about hating women. Where did I say that? Show me.

I don't hate women, I hate all humans, I hate humanity itself, that's why I can be unbiased

You guys just hate women because they rejected you, you'd never be saying shit like this if one woman even kissed you on the cheek this evening and told you you had a chance and to keep trying lol, every single one of you guys is one good female experience away from renouncing the black pill

I hate all people regardless of how they treat me, this species is trash, and you are a good example of why

You're not unbiased. Everybody is biased. By your own admission, you're biased against "humanity itself." Are you selfish and do things for your own benefit? Then you're biased towards yourself. IT tier logic.

Bro, you write walls of text with little substance and wonder why most don't bother reading it. You're also not very good at reasoning (JFL @ calling yourself unbiased; you clearly don't understand the concept), so you're not taken seriously, which means you get little resistance in your threads. This gives you the false notion that your ideas are always correct and that you can't be wrong (JFL @ this ego and hubris... so much for ego death), when the reality is most don't bother dealing with your bullshit much in the same way that scientists don't bother dealing with flat earthers.

You're very much like the Eric Dubay of the black pill community.

If you have an idea, make a case for it and let people decide for themselves. But don't frame it like it's the absolute truth and if anybody disagrees they're a blue pilled moron. Stop doing that shit.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You're not unbiased. Everybody is biased. By your own admission, you're biased against "humanity itself." Are you selfish and do things for your own benefit? Then you're biased towards yourself. IT tier logic

Self interest is not the same thing as bias idiot, you are falsely conflating terms, bias would be me asserting that everything I do for self interest is acceptable and excusable but when others do it its "wrong"

I accept that I may be doing something wrong, I simply don't care that its wrong or not

so you're not taken seriously, which means you get little resistance in your threads

JFL at speaking as if you speak for a group, speak for yourself, most users like my threads and my threads are rated highly, keep coping though

 

[based_meme]

Self interest is not the same thing as bias idiot, you are falsely conflating terms, bias would be me asserting that everything I do for self interest is acceptable and excusable but when others do it its "wrong"

Again, you don't understand the concept. Biases aren't limited to cognition. There are behavioral biases. Preferring your own interests over the interests of others is a natural and logical bias, but a bias nonetheless.

The thing you're describing is called "hypocrisy" - something you've demonstrated in the past. (Most people are, so you sort of get a pass.)

I accept that I may be doing something wrong, I simply don't care that its wrong or not

You? Accept that you're wrong?

That's the best joke I've heard on the forum all week.

JFL at speaking as if you speak for a group, speak for yourself, most users like my threads and my threads are rated highly, keep coping though

I never said that shit. I never speak, nor claim to speak, for anybody but myself. The fact that you read into that in such a way is - surprise surprise - a bias. Believing that you're not biased is giga biased in of itself (appropriately called "bias blindspot").

Keep strawmanning, champ.

Also, JFL @ being proud that your threads are liked by low IQ posters. You have a flock to tend to now.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I never speak, nor claim to speak, for anybody but myself

JFL, maybe english is not your first language, but when you make a statement like THIS:

You're also not very good at reasoning (JFL @ calling yourself unbiased; you clearly don't understand the concept), so you're not taken seriously, which means you get little resistance in your threads. This gives you the false notion that your ideas are always correct and that you can't be wrong (JFL @ this ego and hubris... so much for ego death), when the reality is most don't bother dealing with your bullshit

YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR OTHERS

If not please tell me:
Who is not taking me seriously when you say "so you're not taken seriously" (do you mean just yourself?)
Who is giving "little resistance" in my threads (do you mean just yourself, weird wording to just be speaking of yourself?)
Who is the "most" that doesn't "bother dealing" with my "bullshit" (are you speaking of yourself in plural as "most"?, "most" is one person now?, that's some weird use of english)

JFL

Keep strawmanning, champ.

Nobody strawmanned you

I JUST PROVED ABOVE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR OTHERS

So I'll say it again, speak for yourself idiot

Also, JFL @ being proud that your threads are liked by low IQ posters

To quote an idiot:

I never said that shit

Also JFL at the kinds of of responses you give, disingenuous as fuck, damned if I do damned if I don't

This response showed that no matter how I responded your bias was already present

I agree and you assert that nobody agrees with my posts, I disagree and you assert that I am now proud that people agree with my posts

You never had a valid position to begin with lol

 

[Uglymuggly]

This is kinda soy ngl

 

[BlkPillPres]

This is kinda soy ngl

Only if you can't read and instead infer things I never said to argue against in your head, if you actually took the time to read you'd see that everything you are thinking has literally NOTHING to do with what I said, but this forum is filled with idiots that read the title and reply

 

[Uglymuggly]

Only if you can't read and instead infer things I never said to argue against in your head, if you actually took the time to read you'd see that everything you are thinking has literally NOTHING to do with what I said, but this forum is filled with idiots that read the title and reply

I read. When you said that foids have to go through a lot and that foids have to go through “pain” and are “expected” to do anal “which is painful for wahmen teehee” it showed me you’ve been falling for the jews lies about how “wahmen have it hard too sweaty”

 

[BlkPillPres]

are “expected” to do anal “which is painful for wahmen teehee”

They are expected and it is painful, I'll wait for you to tell me those two statements are false

it showed me you’ve been falling for the jews lies about how “wahmen have it hard too sweaty”

I can already tell from this post that you use drugs, because its the kind of retarded response you can expect from a drug user (alcohol/cigarettes/weed/etc), it just reeks of - "I like to get high brooooooo"

Jews have literally nothing to do with any of this, and this thread has nothing to do with "women have it hard too" in any general sense

In fact my point is that when it comes to sex, they are the only ones that have it hard, there is no "too", your job in the bedroom as a man is to fuck, that's it, they have to "get fucked", that's a lot more difficult than fucking, you just have to do one motion with your hips with a lot of repetition, its women who have to develop "skills", you don't have to do anything that triggers your gag reflex, you don't have to get your asshole stretched out and demolished , nothing, just rock your hips back and forth

What I'm saying is so simple and obvious, you have to be retarded to not get it

Sex as a man is not even comparable to sex as a woman when it comes to effort, sex is way better as a man

 

[based_meme]

JFL, maybe english is not your first language, but when you make a statement like THIS:


YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR OTHERS

If not please tell me:
Who is not taking me seriously when you say "so you're not taken seriously" (do you mean just yourself?)
Who is giving "little resistance" in my threads (do you mean just yourself, weird wording to just be speaking of yourself?)
Who is the "most" that doesn't "bother dealing" with my "bullshit" (are you speaking of yourself in plural as "most"?, "most" is one person now?, that's some weird use of english)

JFL



Nobody strawmanned you

I JUST PROVED ABOVE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR OTHERS

So I'll say it again, speak for yourself idiot


To quote an idiot:


Also JFL at the kinds of of responses you give, disingenuous as fuck, damned if I do damned if I don't

This response showed that no matter how I responded your bias was already present

I agree and you assert that nobody agrees with my posts, I disagree and you assert that I am now proud that people agree with my posts

You never had a valid position to begin with lol

I'm not speaking FOR others, I'm speaking ABOUT others, as in, I'm making an observation. And you're calling me the idiot who doesn't understand English.

Top fucking KEK.

You're in damage control mode and you've managed to fuck that up too, along with any common sense you had. Your ego can't bring itself to admit that you're wrong and that the basic premise of your thread here is pretty weak, much like the assholes of foids after a weekday trip to chad's place.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I'm not speaking FOR others, I'm speaking ABOUT others, as in, I'm making an observation

Again, like I said, disingenuous, you can't call saying what you THINK someone else thinks an observation, because you aren't a mind reader you idiot, that's an inference not an observation

Heck you took it a step further and inferred the thoughts of people WHO DID NOT RESPOND TO ME

when the reality is most don't bother dealing with your bullshit

So anyone who doesn't respond and "give resistance" to my threads is just not "bothering to deal with my bullshit"

That's you inferring the thoughts of people who didn't even do anything JFL

Dude quit while you're behind, you are definitely speaking for others, there's no two sides about it, you can't bring up other people, ASSUME their opinions about me, and then say you are speaking ABOUT them and not FOR them

By your logic, let me speak ABOUT your mother and let you know she thinks you are a the worst mistake she ever made lol

Remember now, I'm not speaking FOR her, it was ABOUT her, even though I'm inferring her thoughts never having spoken to her about you

Retard tier argumentation skills

And you're calling me the idiot who doesn't understand English

Yes, and the fact that you don't realize you are wrong just adds to how much of an idiot you look like lol

You don't even know the difference between FOR and ABOUT, you can't make inferences and then pretend its some neutral observation, you aren't a mind reader

 

[based_meme]

Again, like I said, disingenuous, you can't call saying what you THINK someone else thinks an observation, because you aren't a mind reader you idiot, that's an inference not an observation

Heck you took it a step further and inferred the thoughts of people WHO DID NOT RESPOND TO ME


So anyone who doesn't respond and "give resistance" to my threads is just not "bothering to deal with my bullshit"

That's you inferring the thoughts of people who didn't even do anything JFL

Dude quit while you're behind, you are definitely speaking for others, there's no two sides about it, you can't bring up other people, ASSUME their opinions about me, and then say you are speaking ABOUT them and not FOR them

By your logic, let me speak ABOUT your mother and let you know she thinks you are a the worst mistake she ever made lol

Remember now, I'm not speaking FOR her, it was ABOUT her, even though I'm inferring her thoughts never having spoken to her about you

Retard tier argumentation skills



Yes, and the fact that you don't realize you are wrong just adds to how much of an idiot you look like lol

You don't even know the difference between FOR and ABOUT, you can't make inferences and then pretend its some neutral observation, you aren't a mind reader

You know there's this thing called direct messaging in the forum, right? You don't need to read minds when they offer their opinions.

Keep blowing hot air. That's all you're good for tbh.

 

[Uglymuggly]

They are expected and it is painful, I'll wait for you to tell me those two statements are false



I can already tell from this post that you use drugs, because its the kind of retarded response you can expect from a drug user (alcohol/cigarettes/weed/etc), it just reeks of - "I like to get high brooooooo"

Jews have literally nothing to do with any of this, and this thread has nothing to do with "women have it hard too" in any general sense

In fact my point is that when it comes to sex, they are the only ones that have it hard, there is no "too", your job in the bedroom as a man is to fuck, that's it, they have to "get fucked", that's a lot more difficult than fucking, you just have to do one motion with your hips with a lot of repetition, its women who have to develop "skills", you don't have to do anything that triggers your gag reflex, you don't have to get your asshole stretched out and demolished , nothing, just rock your hips back and forth

What I'm saying is so simple and obvious, you have to be retarded to not get it

Sex as a man is not even comparable to sex as a woman when it comes to effort, sex is way better as a man

Why do you think sex is better as a man? Did the (((media))) tell you that. There’s more nerve endings at the vagina than the dick. And foids don’t get genitally mutilated. Foids only do anal cause they let chad do anything. That’s totally their own fault. And yes I do drug cope it helps me feel less depressed. How is that a bad thing? Also sex is great for foids stop coping with. “They have to be penetrated and act submissive”. Foids love sex nigger. Average foid has infinitely times more sex than me. Foids also always talk about their “rights” to abortions and birth control. Foids do this because they like sex.

 

[mNFwTJ3wz9]

Cuck mindset, there's no such thing as "allow", you either get what you want or you leave the relationship, if you stay its your fault, you can't blame women for you being a coward with no spine

Do you think most men don't act like simps?
I sincerely doubt women can be pressured into allowing anal sex by a non-chad.
I read your thread and all that I can imagine is some soy saying some convoluted shit to imply he wants to have anal sex, and his gf/wife telling him to fuck off.
Regular men have no power in relationships these days.
If a female wants to get fucked by chad, sure she'll have to do anal and other degrading things, but the fact that they choose to get fucked by chad means that they find that it is worth it, or that they are unable to reason.
In either case your phrase "sex is no picnic for women" does not hold.

 

[cognitohazard]

I'm always seeing users going on and on about "starfish sex", but that's something that certain men allow, if you aren't demanding better sex from the get go in a relationship (or from a prostitute you are paying) then its your fault if you get "starfish sex", but for the most part women have to exert a lot of effort and bare a lot of strain in the bedroom, I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

Women have to tolerate way more when it comes to sex than men, being on the giving end (man) means its all on you, true, but being on the receiving end is no picnic, and there's an extreme and growing laundry list of shit women are expected to do with their partners, and these acts are normalized which creates social pressure to do it because "everybody is doing it"

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

Imagine growing up as a female knowing full well that a hole in which you are used to pushing something soft out is DESTINED to be ravaged and have something rigid shoved in and out over and over lol, you have to prepare mentally and physically for that JFL. Imagine getting into a relationship knowing you are expected to offer up your asshole to be reamed JFL

Its a completely different dynamic, men have to exert most of the energy and effort in sex, that I agree with, but if I had to choose I'd always choose the giving end rather than the receiving end, and not just because I'm a man, even outside the context of being a man its objectively better, its less "shameful" of an act, you are the dominant

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL), deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc, and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

Think of all the shit a woman is going to have to tolerate in sex

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

Just blow jobs alone are an annoying task when you think about it

Everything to do with sex for a man is about physical effort, if you have a strong core and a decent sized dick you are good to go

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SEX FOR A WOMAN IS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH YOUR HOLES THAT AREN'T NORMAL FROM A BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT

Nothing rigid is supposed to go up your ass, nothing rigid is supposed to be shoved in and out of your throat, you aren't supposed to be swallowing sperm and every guy wants his bitch to swallow (oh yeah, having to taste cum, that's another thing women are expected to do, I doubt it tastes good at all but I've heard from women that your diet changes the taste lol)

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Of course I've only considered a woman's perspective because I'm an escortcel and I can flashback to cumming on a bitches face and tits, and I remember thinking about how she felt in that position lol, being the "sexual submissive" (female role in the bedroom) is not a good position at all, I'd never want to be a woman

I'd recommend you read this thread to get where I'm coming from about the kind of "effort" women (especially prostitutes) have to put into sex

Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free"

First off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently)...

incels.is

Its not easy at all being a woman in the bedroom lol, think about it, do you enjoy taking shits?, I don't, it feels weird and even hurts a little, now imaging taking a bunch of fast and hard rigid shits in quick succession over a period of 15 mins to an hour. That's what anal sex is from the woman's perspective

From the man's perspective its just pure bliss of this tight spasming hole just sucking you in, I haven't done it yet but I know its going to be amazing (not to mention your pelvis is just pounding into a soft cushion)

Sex is definitely better as a man, without question, women get to have multiple orgasms as a tradeoff, its evolutions way of making them be able to tolerate all of the "punishment"

So I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

You watch too much porn lol
I don't expect any of that crazy shit like anal or deepthroating

 

[Neggr]

I only would expect anal if she had it before otherwise Im not interested in it

 

[deeptroat]

I would never do any of that degenerate shit, who cares if foids consent to rape.

 

[Mainländer]

Women are all masochists to a bigger or smaller degree. If they weren't, they wouldn't do what they have to do like sex, pregnancy, etc.

 

[BITG]

I don’t feel sorry for them. So their lives are 0.00001% harder in the bedroom, sure, but in the real outside world they live on tutorial mode. Fuck them.

Women are all masochists to a bigger or smaller degree. If they weren't, they wouldn't do what they have to do like sex, pregnancy, etc.

 

[happiless]

Did you add soylent to your diet recently? Right he's blocked me because I disagreed with him at some point.

Could’ve just said “Sex work is real work “ and saved himself the even bigger embarrassment of writing three text walls justifying it.

 

[Benj-amin]

You watch too much porn lol
I don't expect any of that crazy shit like anal or deepthroating

@BlkPillPres BTFO.
We are going to end his whole career.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Why do you think sex is better as a man? Did the (((media))) tell you that

I didn't mean better in just terms of pleasure, I literally said they can have multiple orgasms, you are stating the obvious by saying they enjoy sex, no shit, never said they didn't enjoy it, learn to read THEN reply

Foids only do anal cause they let chad do anything

I sincerely doubt women can be pressured into allowing anal sex by a non-chad.

You guys make us look like idiots obsessed with memes when you exaggerate things to this extent, its like you are literally saying only Chad has anal sex, this is borderline retarded, you can't be so engrossed by the Chad meme that you believe this shit, I know at least two normie males that have had anal with their girlfriends, what the hell are you talking about

Oh and every woman is pressured into it the first time, nobody just wants a dick in their ass lol

You guys make it sound like we all actually live in basements, if you had just one male normie friend, co-worker, acquiantance you'd know what you're saying isn't true, having anal sex is a norm, normie males are getting it too, you are coping by saying "its just for Chad"

You know there's this thing called direct messaging in the forum, right?

Sure a bunch of guys were so pissed off about something I said that they ALL randomly decided to message a random user called @based_meme

Yeah totally believable, not too many coincidences there at all, also very convenient to not post any screenshots of what you are claiming, I guess the messages were "too confidential"

You watch too much porn lol
I don't expect any of that crazy shit like anal or deepthroating

You not expecting it has nothing to do with them doing it, also nobody needs to watch porn to want to do any of those things, humans have been doing this shit for years, there are literal old depictions of all of this shit

The Kamasutra is written in sanskrit lol, that's old as hell and it has positions and sex acts I haven't even thought of and likely never would

Women are all masochists to a bigger or smaller degree. If they weren't, they wouldn't do what they have to do like sex, pregnancy, etc.

I agree they are masochists, but I never said they did not enjoy it, you guys really aren't reading at all you?

I don’t feel sorry for them. So their lives are 0.00001% harder in the bedroom, sure, but in the real outside world they live on tutorial mode. Fuck them.

Thread is not about feeling sorry for them

 

[Caesercel]

Anal sex is just disgusting. I don't know how sex havers can even enjoy that shit.

I think you are overestimating just how much work women are doing in bed. I don't believe for once that all or even most of them are consistently giving blowjobs or anal sex. I think most sexual activity is still vanilla. Its what most adult sex devolves into especially after 30.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I think you are overestimating just how much work women are doing in bed

I don't see how

I don't believe for once that all or even most of them are consistently giving blowjobs or anal sex. I think most sexual activity is still vanilla. Its what most adult sex devolves into especially after 30.

JFL at this cope, 30's?

No, it "devolves" into that in their 20's, people are already having "vanilla" sex by 16

Dude people are already doing anal at 18

 

[Caesercel]

I don't see how



JFL at this cope, 30's?

No, it "devolves" into that in their 20's, people are already having "vanilla" sex by 16

What I meant was, for most adults most sexual activity is vanilla only. No other crazy bedroom activity of the youth. I don't think that women are servicing their men with blowjobs and anal sex and other shit all too often. Its hard enough for some men to get them to spread their legs.

 

[BlkPillPres]

What I meant was, for most adults most sexual activity is vanilla only

Older generations and the extremely religious (YES)

Current generation (NO)

Even religious people in their 20's today are doing anal, think about it, a common thing for "virgin" girls to do is to do anal sex so they don't lose their virginity, religous people use mental gymnastics all the time to gain access to the pleasure they crave

If you think people today are fucking like the strict and orderly past generations you are wrong

Its hard enough for some men to get them to spread their legs.

Again, you guys are coping, its just us who isn't fucking and "in on the fun", everyone else is thoroughly enjoying themselves

Of course anal isn't a "first date thing", but most people dating for a few months and already have sex, have done anal at least once, and a lot of guys ask for it on their birthday lol, JFL dude I was literally talking to a normie last two weeks and he was saying the best thing is when they offer anal

Seriously come on guys, stop coping

This "Chad only" meme is beings stretched to ridiculous levels, normies are doing these sex acts too

 

[Caesercel]

Older generations and the extremely religious (YES)

Current generation (NO)

Even religious people in their 20's today are doing anal, think about it, a common thing for "virgin" girls to do is to do anal sex so they don't lose their virginity, religous people use mental gymnastics all the time to gain access to the pleasure they crave

If you think people today are fucking like the strict and orderly past generations you are wrong



Again, you guys are coping, its just us who isn't fucking and "in on the fun", everyone else is thoroughly enjoying themselves

Of course anal isn't a "first date thing", but most people dating for a few months and already have sex, have done anal at least once, and a lot of guys ask for it on their birthday lol, JFL dude I was literally talking to a normie last two weeks and he was saying the best thing is when they offer anal

Seriously come on guys, stop coping

This "Chad only" meme is beings stretched to ridiculous levels, normies are doing these sex acts too

I know that people do these acts. I just don't think its common enough to conclude that sex is hard work for women. As you said, its literally used as a birthday gift by some.

And cope if you believe that getting sex is easy peasy for most adult men in relationships. They surely have it better than us but dead bedrooms are still a thing.

Finally, I don't think that with the current scenario and where things are headed, women would be expected to do things without expecting anything in return. The general trend for a few decades has been women doing less and less for more and more, not just in sex but everything.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You watch too much porn lol

Meanwhile in 510 BC

 

[Sheogorath]

for the most part women have to exert a lot of effort and bare a lot of strain in the bedroom,
I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

Obviously "do nothing" and "no effort" is not meant to be taken 100% literally. Even if one is being completely passive there are muscular reactions that happen as reflexes in response to a partner's movements. These exaggerated statements are a dramatic means of "rounding down" in acknowledging the minimal comparative efforts they make compared to a more active partner.

I don't think it's necessarily "a lot of effort" or "a lot of strain" as you've put it for starfish sex though.

If the motions of sex are exhausting for a foid, they're still more exhausting for the male, and if she'd just open her heart and tighten her pussy with love he would finish faster. If it takes 10x as long to coom it's because she's 1/10 as tight as she ought to be.

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

I don't know if we could get any reliable % stats for this conclusion you've drawn here.

Imagine growing up as a female knowing full well that a hole in which you are used to pushing something soft out is DESTINED to be ravaged and have something rigid shoved in and out over and over lol, you have to prepare mentally and physically for that JFL. Imagine getting into a relationship knowing you are expected to offer up your asshole to be reamed JFL

LOL@rigid even when at 100% a cock does bend. Maybe not as much as a shit, but keep in mind the large intestine has sone bend to it too.

even outside the context of being a man its objectively better, its less "shameful" of an act, you are the dominant

Only with man-on-top. A woman can be dominant if she decides to climb on top cowgirl style. You're offering up a false dilemma her.

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL)

That's not embarassing at all, women are more heteroflexible than men. It doesn't have the same aspect of a guy tasting his own cum, and tbh it feels cucked as hell to be homophobic to the point that I wouldn't want to kiss my hypothetical QT wife because her lips tasted like my cum. Why the fuck should that bother me? It's still less gay than getting a handjob from a man when that man is you and you are giving a handjob to a man who is you. Fucking fappers.

deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc,

I think the amount of guys who want to be deepthroated might be exaggerated. I think I'd be fine just having the tip licked and fucking her cheek pouches. Wanting to 'facefuck' her esophageal sphincter isn't necessarily a majority fetish.

and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

You're assuming most foids will actually do it: most won't except for gigachads. The beta orbiters don't get to do that.

When foids do these things for gigachads it isn't suffering at all, they're in heaven because pleasing him gives them endorphins even if it's stuff they don't inherently enjoy. He could literally be punching them in the face and they'd be orgasming from it.

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

effort is minimal if they're enjoying it.

Think of all the shit a woman is going to have to tolerate in sex

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

gag reflex only applies to deep throating, which is NOT a necessity for blowjobs, and most guys are going to be just fine and coom with out it

TBH your understanding of this is likely being misled by porn and our obsession with thinking foids necessarily emulate it to its fullest extent, when they actually don't really need to, to get guys to coom, since they can just do the bare minimum and guys will ejaculate in 10 seconds due to sex deprivation making them ultra sensitive.

Just blow jobs alone are an annoying task when you think about it

Why? It's probably easier for foids to give BJs than for guys to do cunnilingus since there's more options of spots to touch to surprise the recipient tbh.

Everything to do with sex for a man is about physical effort, if you have a strong core and a decent sized dick you are good to go

I don't agree, there's probably also timing/positioning and adding in other factors like what you do with hands/feet, contact with partner, etc.

Let's also not gloss over a strong core here: guys put in a lot of effort to be fit, and I don't think we should just overlook that and take it for granted. Foids often do, like we were born hercules, but foids just don't practise shit like planks/pushups/burpees like we do, our efforts should be acknowledged. We go through extreme prep.

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SEX FOR A WOMAN IS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH YOUR HOLES THAT AREN'T NORMAL FROM A BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT

Nothing rigid is supposed to go up your ass

Sure it is, simians evolved fingering their own assholes TBH we only stopped this when we ventured far enough from water that we couldn't easily clean our fingers.

nothing rigid is supposed to be shoved in and out of your throat

Foids actually don't need to deepthroat if they don't want to, they wield so much power they could just flick their tongue on the tip of a guy's dick and he would worship her.

you aren't supposed to be swallowing sperm

Why not? Stomach can break it down for nutrients.

and every guy wants his bitch to swallow
(oh yeah, having to taste cum, that's another thing women are expected to do, I doubt it tastes good at all but I've heard from women that your diet changes the taste lol)

I wonder, do you think mods would ban a guy if he admitted to trying a drop out of curiosity because it felt pathetic as shit to be paralyzed by homophobic posturing to the point of being unable to apply basic scientific method?

Because it's easily answered tbh if you're not a coward.

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

No, they don't. Women can easily have low-effort EASY sex because there are plenty of men willing to give it, even if they WANT rough sex, they would SIMP as hell and completely cater to whatever a foid wants.

Women only compromise their desires for gigachads, not other men.

Of course I've only considered a woman's perspective because I'm an escortcel and I can flashback to cumming on a bitches face and tits, and I remember thinking about how she felt in that position lol, being the "sexual submissive" (female role in the bedroom) is not a good position at all, I'd never want to be a woman

correction: gigachads and clients

also: getting cum on your skin is low-effort as hell, why the fuck are you worried about that?

I've cleaned cum off my thighs before, and it is EVIL if it dries on your leg hair because them you will be pulling out leg hairs in the process of wiping it off.

By comparison to that, cleaning it off hairless face/tits is fucking EASY so stop bitching.

It would only be bad if it got in their hair or eyes TBH. Maybe ears. Even nostrils wouldn't be bad, you could just blow your nose.

I'd recommend you read this thread to get where I'm coming from about the kind of "effort" women (especially prostitutes) have to put into sex

Its not easy at all being a woman in the bedroom lol,
think about it,
do you enjoy taking shits?

Sometimes, depends on the shit tbh

I don't, it feels weird and even hurts a little

It shouldn't hurt if things are operating properly. I'll admit sometimes it's bad but that's probably because my lifestyle is fucked up in some way, like not moisturizing my anus properly to compensate for the unnatural use of toilet paper when I out to have a bidet to emulate the wading ape my DNA designed.

now imaging taking a bunch of fast and hard rigid shits in quick succession over a period of 15 mins to an hour. That's what anal sex is from the woman's perspective

I imagine it would also be similarly challenging if a woman wanted to fuck me in the ass with a strapon.

I am not being forced to allow that though, and a foid is not being forced to get poopered either.

So what the fuck are you bitching about OP? Seriously.

Foids do NOT need to do that type of thing to have fulfilling relationships.

You really think the SIMPs out there are going to dump a girl for refusing anal? HELL NO. They're a bunch of Phil Dunphys and Ray Romanos who will let her completely dictate the terms of their encounters.

From the man's perspective its just pure bliss of this tight spasming hole just sucking you in,
I haven't done it yet but I know its going to be amazing

You know she isn't going to blast a smelly fart out of her anus onto your balls the second you stick your cock in right OP?

Sex is definitely better as a man, without question, women get to have multiple orgasms as a tradeoff, its evolutions way of making them be able to tolerate all of the "punishment"

Makes no sense, why the hell would nature evolve countermeasures for stupid shit we invented recently like anal/deepthroating?

So I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

you're being overly literal, it's not meant literally, it's a metaphor

it means they can be low-effort if they want, guys will make the sex happen and do 95% of the effort involved while a woman starfish. It's not literally meant as 100/0

Much like "men do all the work". Obviously women always do SOME work, "all" is a metaphor for "most"

 

[jonthesperg]

Nah bro, you're judging from the perspective of a straight thinking masculine man. Men tend to to find the idea of being forced into submission humiliating yet women tend to find it hot.

Most men would feel cucked standing next to a taller man yet most women would feel protected. You say to you'd be humiliated being penetrated and fucked like a woman but dont you think a woman would feel extremely awkward being in the mans position too.

Having all the pressure on you. Having to take command, having to be dominant like that would probably feel really awkward for most straight women. Yet to a lot of us men we love the feeling of being in control and dominant. Whenever we make a woman moan and it's because of us doing the thrusting it makes us feel like the shit, that's how us men are designed. Long story short, men and women are different.

 

[Firefly]

I think you have backpilled yourself so hard that youv'e become bluepilled

 

[Subhuman100]

Jfl at this argument

 

[BlkPillPres]

Nah bro, you're judging from the perspective of a straight thinking masculine man. Men tend to to find the idea of being forced into submission humiliating yet women tend to find it hot.

Again, thread has nothing to do with whether they enjoy it or not, you guys aren't even reading

 

[Ropemaxx]

Low IQ basement dweller/Pornhub IQ
jfl dude women dont give anal or deepthroat unless its gigachad

what fucking world are you living in?
@Personalityinkwell biggest cope thread ive seen in a while

 

[Golden Blue]

Didn't read the thread, but it sounds legit. Imagine being held down by a large man who thrusts his meat stick into one of your crevices repeatedly for some 30+ minutes. That's sex as a woman.

 

[watcher]

Sex is not "easy" to women because women have unrealistic standards when it comes to men. They think 80% of men are ugly, 19% are average and 1% are GL JFL

Female standards

Just be top 1% theory

incels.is

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I'm always seeing users going on and on about "starfish sex", but that's something that certain men allow, if you aren't demanding better sex from the get go in a relationship (or from a prostitute you are paying) then its your fault if you get "starfish sex", but for the most part women have to exert a lot of effort and bare a lot of strain in the bedroom, I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

Women have to tolerate way more when it comes to sex than men, being on the giving end (man) means its all on you, true, but being on the receiving end is no picnic, and there's an extreme and growing laundry list of shit women are expected to do with their partners, and these acts are normalized which creates social pressure to do it because "everybody is doing it"

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

Imagine growing up as a female knowing full well that a hole in which you are used to pushing something soft out is DESTINED to be ravaged and have something rigid shoved in and out over and over lol, you have to prepare mentally and physically for that JFL. Imagine getting into a relationship knowing you are expected to offer up your asshole to be reamed JFL

Its a completely different dynamic, men have to exert most of the energy and effort in sex, that I agree with, but if I had to choose I'd always choose the giving end rather than the receiving end, and not just because I'm a man, even outside the context of being a man its objectively better, its less "shameful" of an act, you are the dominant

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL), deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc, and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

Think of all the shit a woman is going to have to tolerate in sex

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

Just blow jobs alone are an annoying task when you think about it

Everything to do with sex for a man is about physical effort, if you have a strong core and a decent sized dick you are good to go

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SEX FOR A WOMAN IS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH YOUR HOLES THAT AREN'T NORMAL FROM A BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT

Nothing rigid is supposed to go up your ass, nothing rigid is supposed to be shoved in and out of your throat, you aren't supposed to be swallowing sperm and every guy wants his bitch to swallow (oh yeah, having to taste cum, that's another thing women are expected to do, I doubt it tastes good at all but I've heard from women that your diet changes the taste lol)

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Of course I've only considered a woman's perspective because I'm an escortcel and I can flashback to cumming on a bitches face and tits, and I remember thinking about how she felt in that position lol, being the "sexual submissive" (female role in the bedroom) is not a good position at all, I'd never want to be a woman

I'd recommend you read this thread to get where I'm coming from about the kind of "effort" women (especially prostitutes) have to put into sex

Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free"

First off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently)...

incels.is

Its not easy at all being a woman in the bedroom lol, think about it, do you enjoy taking shits?, I don't, it feels weird and even hurts a little, now imaging taking a bunch of fast and hard rigid shits in quick succession over a period of 15 mins to an hour. That's what anal sex is from the woman's perspective

From the man's perspective its just pure bliss of this tight spasming hole just sucking you in, I haven't done it yet but I know its going to be amazing (not to mention your pelvis is just pounding into a soft cushion)

Sex is definitely better as a man, without question, women get to have multiple orgasms as a tradeoff, its evolutions way of making them be able to tolerate all of the "punishment"

So I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

Cope, women love sex.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Sex is not "easy" to women because women have unrealistic standards when it comes to men

Who are you even replying too?

Can't be me, because I never said it was easy, I said the exact opposite

Cope, women love sex.

Never said they didn't, would you retards try and read before you respond, at a certain point I have to agree with incel tears that most of the guys on this site are obnoxious idiots, the amount of guys who have replied against strawman points I never made because they simply didn't read

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Low IQ basement dweller/Pornhub IQ
jfl dude women dont give anal or deepthroat unless its gigachad

what fucking world are you living in?
@Personalityinkwell biggest cope thread ive seen in a while

indeed

this thread was retard iq

 

[BlkPillPres]

I've responded enough to this thread and idiots just keep replying without reading, if you don't get it, then you simply didn't read, I'm not wasting anymore time to respond to this anymore, my point is made

Literally most of the responses are arguing against things I didn't say

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

So low IQ thread, they just dress slutty and can get sex easy as hell

Playing videogames is not an easy task, they require effort to beat. Everything does to an extent. Eating pizza too, you have to bite and chew. That means what? Nothing. Plenty of women just lie down and take it anyway, you can’t equate the effort of an expensive prostitute you literally hired to do a specific job to that of the average woman.

Compared to the effort men make not just in sex but to lead up to it? Women pretty much just exist.

 

[watcher]

Who are you even replying too?

Can't be me, because I never said it was easy, I said the exact opposite

Women are disgusted by 80% of men so they will always find sex with most men to be awful anyway, no matter what they have to do.