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I literally have 0% attraction to asian females, so that is not an option
In africa, south america, and ukraine the escorts are pretty cheap too.
OP = High IQ and blackpilled to the bone
Slut shaming is a joke
Slut shaming is a joke
OP got BTFO'd by everyone that responded to his arguments and has given up it seems.
If any of you fuckers had the looks to pull it off, you would be slaying sluts every week.
high IQ. whether or not you shame them, they are living their best life, and they get chad and chad gets them, there is NOTHING you can do about it
You can shame them and not betabux them. No uncucked man wants a serious relationship with a 30+ year old used slut, unless it's just for fucking.
I clarified for the first couple of misreadings and didn't bother to repeat myself. If you think the OP is saying "slut shaming is wrong and you should be fine with being cucked by a slut" you're a fucking idiot. It isn't about the layman's motivation for disliking promiscuity in women, or whether or not slut shaming is good. It is about the propensity of incels to moralize the issue of a female having a lot of sex (and not with them), and why they do this with such bitter zeal. Do you honestly believe that incels dislike sluts because they can't pair bond properly? This is an irrelevance for an incel. Disguising envy in right-wing talking points about traditional families and children or whatever is an obvious ruse. Do you think Elliot Rodger had contempt for sluts because he was concerned about the fate of western civilization? Elliot Rodger and the incels among him have a knack for destruction and revenge. When they cannot achieve, they tear down. That is all. It brings incels pain to look at Chad and Stacy because they are flourishing while incels are rotting and the only thing they have the strength to respond with is moralizing.
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No but slut shaming foids who then expect to be wanted, is fair enough. Not wanting roasties is a valid want and saying that foids are spoilt by being drilled by a million chads is too not unfair. Foids are welcome to whore themselves but its not fair to expect men to want them in their roastie state. It's hardly a cope for incels to slut shame, its merely an observation.
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Obviously I dislike that I can't pair bond with my looksmatch because now she's a used up slut. I can't marry or have kids with her because she can't pair bond, only a cuck would be in a serious relationship with an old rostie.
Tearing down a rigged system that's against you is all you can do if you're not content with LDARing. ER also doesn't represent most incels.
They're only "flourishing" because of the cucked feminist laws and our tax money that feed hypergamy. We need to take those things away then see the whores and chads scurry like rats.
You can't pair bond with your looksmatch because women don't want to date their looksmatch, but that isn't because they're sluts.
If you acknowledge that you're tearing it down because you're motivated by revenge against a system that's against you you've conceded my point.
They're flourishing because they're good looking and people want to have sex with them and treat them well. If you think Chad and Stacy are doing well in life because of "cucked feminist laws" and "tax money" and they would be fucked without these things, you're copemaxxed beyond belief.
Why do they all the sudden want sub6 men in their 30's when their eggs dry up and they want to settle?
A flawed system needs to be destroyed so it can be rebuilt. Nothing wrong with revenge, it's actually very high t and high iq.
Chads would definitely not get all the foids they can choose from like they can today if foids had the same responsibilities as men, no pussy passes in court, no affirmative action in jobs or schools that give foids the upper hand, no divorce rape, no tax money for single mom whores, no false rape accusations allowed with no major evidence. Then foid's true inferiority will appear and they will run to seek relationships with their looksmatches, because daddy government won't be there to replace their husbands. They will retreat to their looksmatches the same way they retreat to them after they hit the wall and want to settle with a betabux cuck.
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They don't want them, they settle for them. When they're younger they don't have to settle for them and they have a more narrow range of demands (be hot like Chad). When they get older they want a reliable man to raise their children and give them money as well. This stands whether or not they're chaste. A woman who goes from one Chad boyfriend to one betabuxx boyfriend would act like this.
That's fine, I didn't say "revenge is bad." I said it's a cope to moralize about slut shaming when it's really just an ineffectual way to get revenge against a world that has denied your desires.
You're getting it the wrong way around. It's not our modern institutions that enable Chad and Stacy to flourish, it's that we moderns lack the institutions that were supposed to hold them back so we've reverted to the natural order of things.
Who wants a slut that is just using him for settling and betabuxing? Only a cuck would take an offer like that. She will deny him sex and still fuck chads on the side because she can't pair bond after being ruined by the cock carousel. Those whores are damaged goods and no man with a brain would betabux them. It will be better to just escortcel than take an old used whore.
Slut shaming is moral and will be more effective once it's done on a bigger scale than it being done on some incel forums and a few based youtubers doing it.
The natural order of things were chads getting killed by ogrecels. That's why there are so few chads these days and so many more non-chads. Without all the cucked laws and institutions there would be much less chads. Foids used to be sold for goats.
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Are you denying that a non-slut would be more interested in Chad than her looksmatch when she's young?
The natural order of things is 5-17 women reproducing for every 1 man. Hypergamy isn't a modern feminist invention, it's nature.
Who cares? Not everyone is entitled to a prince or princess. I want to be with a stacy, but my looksmatch would be good enough to keep me content.
There are only a few mammalian species like that. Humans can't be like because we work in tribes as hunters and gatherers. No one would contribute to the tribe if only the top 5% were getting pussy, they'd end up being killed by the rest of the tribe.
It's indeed a cope. Let's be real. How many of us wanted to settle down when we were teenagers? All of you act like you're so moral and like you would have gotten married as a virgin at 16 if you had the chance. Oh please. I remember being horny as fuck starting at age 11 and all I could think of was how could I get girls from my class into bed. I started looking into PUA strategies at around age 13. I would compulsively jerk off multiple times a day fantasizing about fucking lots of girls and women. If I would have been born Chad I would have fucked thousands of women by now and would have no desire to settle down or raise a family until my 40s. How can I be mad at a woman for doing exactly what I would have done if I were in the same position? Getting mad at a woman for being a "slut" is like getting mad at someone for eating cake because you are too poor to afford it. It doesn't make you better, because you would eat the cake too if you could. There is a reason women don't want us. It's not because they are sluts. Nature didn't intend for us to reproduce. We were born to be slaves. It is funny because all of us here claim to be black pilled but there are still so many blue pilled copers who think that if women weren't "sluts" or we brought back "the patriarchy" that they'd suddenly be attractive to women. Just accept that you're genetic deadends. I have. The cope here is way too strong. BTW I saw some person claim that Chads fuck sluts but never actually settle down with them. This is another cope. Chad and high-status men don't care about women's counts. My family is well off and I am around a lot of high-status men and their families. None of them are marrying virgins or trad women. This is another cope. The reason why incels have this idea of marrying a JB virgin girl is because we've never experienced sex with any women or had a teenage first love. So you guys are super coping hoping to make up for lost time by getting the best woman that you wish you could get. But we can't make up for lost time. Either accept that maybe the best you can get is a used up roastie if you are lucky or just accept your incel status. I thought we're black pilled men here. All these coping strategies are so blue pill.
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The point is that being a slut has nothing to do with women wanting to date Chad instead of you. Whether they're sluts or not this will happen. The only difference is that you're less likely to get cucked for Chad when you're betabuxxing in your 30's.
8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
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How is it not rational to slut shame? Biologically it destroys a womans ability to pairbond, please explain how women being slutty and hypergamous isn't harmful to incels and why we should accept something that directly harms us?
If women weren't whores, we wouldn't be Incels, its really as simple as that. People who reject this are fakecels, and probably crosspost on cucktears, and should go back to reddit ASAP.
I didn't say it's irrational to slut shame or that you should accept women being sluts, I pointed out that the motivation to slut shame is rooted in jealousy.
You've changed the discussion from being about "pair bonding" i.e. being able to form intimate relationships to "pair bond to one male longterm" i.e. remaining married for a long period of time.
I didn't know incels were so civic minded.
Incomprehensible post.So is saying you shouldn't have to prep the bull for your femdom wife. You're just jealous you can't be the bull. Coping that your wife shouldn't have sex with other guys even though she easily can
They become sluts once they waste their youths chasing men they should know will never be serious with them. You are way more likely to get cucked by chads as a faggot betabux who commits to a used whore who can't pair bond. The only way to be more assured you won't get cucked is if you deflower a virgin in an area without cucked laws, because then if she leaves you for a chad there will be no other men willing to betabux her since she's not a virgin.
Who knows how accurate those studies are trying to determine how humans behaved 8000 years ago. Plus, that 1 man for 17 foids probably wasn't a pretty boy chad, he'd be some big ogre.8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.More women than men have added their DNA to the human gene pool
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Pair bonding does not necessarily entail a long-term or lifelong bond. In the context in which it was being discussed ITT originally, it was being talked about as though being a slut is bad for women themselves because it destroys their ability to form intimate relationships, which is why they need to be forced to date looksmatched incels or whatever, for their own good. This is not the case. Women know what they're doing and they're living it up with basically zero negative effects, and when they're ready to settle down they will, and they usually do. Their interests are simply not aligned with your interests, and they're winning. That's why you're rotting on a forum and they're enjoying their lives. They have sex easily all the time and you don't get shit, and there's nothing you can do about it except ineffectually moralize and whine about how they're sluts while pretending that you have the superior moral position for being a waste of skin.That's what pairbonding is, hence "pair."
You're not, you're just trying to politically leverage your jealousy and resentment because they can enjoy sex and you can't.Why wouldn't we be?
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It's bad for them because no uncucked man will want an old used foid for anything more than sex. And it's bad for their looksmatches because the rosties will be repulsed by them after being accustomed to chad dicks. 90% of the time it will be a dead bed relationship and lead to cucking then divorce. That's why only an idiot would try to be in a serious relationship with a used 30+ year old slut.
They have been able to get away with it for a few years, but in the next decade I don't see many men settling for them when we have advanced sexbots and a big majority of men become blackpilled on sluts.
They aren't entitled to have everything that interests them. They only seem to be winning because of the cucked laws and from using our tax money, and too many cucked men willing to accept used whores, but those things will be put to an end soon.
An incel who makes decent money can fuck tons of cheap hookers in SEasia.
Slut shaming deeply effects whores no matter how proud they say they are being sluts, but the only problem is we need a lot more uncucked men to participate in it for it to deter them from wasting their youths riding the cock carousel.
Jealous of who exactly? The Woman? The Men she sleeps with? I'm not Jealous of the woman, i'm saddened and angry that she is lost and making the world a worse place as a result, she is throwing away her genetic potential probably because of being influenced by (((Outside Forces))), and a lack of a proper father in her life.
If we're talking about the men she sleeps with, i'm not jealous of them either, I think they belong on a cross.
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what is your IT name?
incels are just like other groups of people. they fight for their own self interest, not objective truth
very few incels on this forum are actually 'blackpilled'; most will gobble up bluepill BS if it helps with getting them laid
I see this happening all the time. ppl argue as if they care about what is factually correct, when all they're doing is trying to win the fight
we all like to think of ourselves as noble scientist searching for the truth, but in reality most of us are soldiers on a battlefield
not many incels here are willing to take the bitter blackpill if it exposes them as genetic trash with no hope
they will only take the pill if it suits their interest
very few incels on this forum are actually 'blackpilled'; most will gobble up bluepill BS if it helps with getting them laid
I see this happening all the time. ppl argue as if they care about what is factually correct, when all they're doing is trying to win the fight
we all like to think of ourselves as noble scientist searching for the truth, but in reality most of us are soldiers on a battlefield
not many incels here are willing to take the bitter blackpill if it exposes them as genetic trash with no hope
they will only take the pill if it suits their interest
You’re taking away their cope
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i shit on my race, gender, culture on a consistent basis if it's based on facts. being a male or certain race doesn't affect my critical thinking capabilities. i don't do cheerleading for the team X, and most of the blackpill i've swollen says negative things about my identity. i accept them anyways.
Sounds like a cope tbh or you’re weird case for an incel to not show any kind of jealousy towards Chad or women , Because many of us deeply desire their sex lives and how easy they have it , Especially in Chad’s case
I am a weird case in general as a human being for not having any Jealousy in my heart, Jealousy is quite primitive in my view, I still feel anger, and other negative emotions, but these emotions typically stem from how their actions cause suffering, and yes, I would love to have it as easy as Chad, but even if I did have it that easy, I would use that power for good only. I know many of you can't say the same.
I think that depends on the slut you're talking about.
Even if there is a slut we don't personally want to fuck, we might still condemn her because we recognize there are other guys who might otherwise like to, and we feel empathy for the suffering of our fellow man.
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I thought this is common sense, but so many men gfd / even marry stereotypica! Sloots then be surprised when they cheat / leave him cos she found better men / shes simply bored and want another chad.
Lol just reminds me of ronaldos new gf that he juust have babies with (trapped with lol) just look at her instagram, shameless sloot
Another one is that gigachad Stephen James, new gf is daniellycfreitas typical teen sloot, posting pictures with super revealing clothes on her ig.
Even gigachads are comitting to these common whores, man..wtf is happening.
It's not that bad when chads commit to whores because they're both whores. A whore and a player can be in a relationship that's semi functional, but a used whore can never genuinely pair bond with a non-chad betabux, and she will always cuck him. A non-chad has to get a virgin to imprint himself on her from a young age, then she won't grow up to be a hypergamous chad chasing slut. Cucks who only had one girlfriend in the past, or none, who think they can be in a healthy relationship with an old used slut have some screws loose in their head.
Looking for a serious relationship is like looking for a new pet, you want to get a pet that's young so they can be tamed easily and won't run away from you. Most people who buy adult animals end up rehoming them because they didn't know how untame they'd be, only people with lots of experience dealing with wild animals can adopt them, but it's even hard for them a lot of the time.
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All im saying is, Chad has options, they could marry a 9/10 virgin jb if they want to.
I thought as soon as they saw how slutty the foid is in social media, theyd be turned off and wont consider her as ltr. But way too many fucking chads Ive seen, have slutty as fuck girlfriends and wives. Just wtf.
Maybe those sluts are simply easygoing, more fun and good in bed and chads are confident she wouldnt cheat on him, cos hes well chad..
I mean wtf, sluts shouldnt even be able to marry soycucks, nowadays a lot of plain jane gigasluts are landing gigachads!
Even chads marry leftovers these days, just lol
Because chads don't care about building a monogamous relationship with virgins. They just want to be with other slutty pigs like themselves so they can have open relationships.
They're easy going with chads, he doesn't have to train them from a young age to not hate him.
Exactly. Which is why it's low iq and cucked to pursue relationships with used whores thinking you'll have the same outcome as the chads.
I don't see them in serious relationships or marriages. The chads are just pumping and dumping them along with other used whores.
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Just look at ronaldo's new baby mama, and that gigachad stephen james new gf.
I follow some chads in ig (their lifestyle is too interesting), seen too many rich / high status normies and chads have slutty gfs and wives. Hardly any of their gf and wives dress modest. Even chads dont get to control their foid now...
Too scared of being outed as a sexist by foid and normscums..
Those celebrities just have those relationships for publicity and to show off in the spotlight to degenerate normies. Their relationships aren't real.
This is so true girls want constant excitement when they find a nice guy a good guy they enjoy it for a while but then it gets bored and they find a Chad asshole who treat her like dirt, parties all the times, doing drugs, cheats on her maybe even hitten her and then they seek the nice guy again for comfort but then he because boring and the cycle continues.
Girls are never happy, guys actually seem very comitted to a relationship and being faithful while the girls just use guys as a form of thrill in their life.
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Nah, to be fair, a lot of men that have options cheat, heard one normie literally say after a few years the sex get boring that he kept staring at that one spot in the wall. Another normie said he become a foodie to avoid cheating
, he said she puts out often but still you got bored of the same hole after a few years. Both gender need variety to be truly happy tbh.I think I could only be truly happy with 1 wife if I get to cheat, even if shes the perfect imaginary foid.
If I dont get to cheat, id literally rather not marry, stay single and fuck prostitute occassionally.
Tbh cant imagine sex with the same person for more than a decade (even if I am incel). I see the sme prostitute 10x and it gets boring already. I think Its impossible to stay happy w the same person forever. Passion only last for so long. If I was a normie id jump from relationship to relationship until I get ugly and cant attract foid anymore then if I could id arrange something thats not as risky as marriage.
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You are a retard, people slut shame for the same reason humans are ashamed of being naked and were the only animals that wear clothes, because its indecent to flaunt your sexuality like that, its inconsiderate, by your logic we should all just be comfortable with being nude now
Its all about modesty, and modesty is about preserving social order, its the reason why people don't like rich people that flaunt their wealth in front of them, it encourages criminality and theft because it makes people feel less than, and feel a sense of urgency in acquiring the same resources so they can compete
This is why black american culture is so criminal, "flossing" (showing off for the sole purpose of making someone feel less than) is a norm, that cultural practice melds all too well with the criminal culture blacks have, because it creates a crabs in the bucket mentality, and it makes people feel motivated to do crime so they don't have to feel like a loser all the time
Also @Uggo Mongo summarized the best reasons in these charts:
Promiscuity leads to a destabilized sexual market
How does one guy take care of 17 kids? In the past there was no birth control or condoms. There were no cucks who looked after single mom cumdumpsters either.8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.
Failure to respond to the point at hand already. This thread is not about why "people" slut shame, it's about why incels slut shame.
Nothing I've said in this thread has been prescriptive, i.e. "you should be comfortable with sluts", but descriptive, i.e. "you hate sluts because you're jealous of their sexual agency and power." You can be right about sluts being bad for whatever reason, but it does not mean that your root motivation is to increase the welfare of society.
Yes, the lower orders cannot cope with their feelings of envy and inferiority, so they moralize about how one ought to be modest and charitable or they otherwise act out which pulls at the social fabric. Though it must be said that these are Christian ethics, not human ethics. We moderns have to live as though we are equal to conceal our inequality so that envy and inferiority does reach a boiling point and begin to overflow. Without envy and inferiority this would not be necessary.
It would still be necessary regardless of envy or inferiority, because a "need" still exists
If you are starving homeless person, someone throwing away a burger because its "medium rare" is still going to piss you off, and its not just because you envy their ability to eat what they want, its because you are hungry as fuck, you are forgetting that at the root of envy and inferiority is a "need" or "want", whether someone is envious or not they are going to want what someone else has if its tied to a need or want
With need (opposed to envy or inferiority) in response inequality, the inequality itself would not be the issue, but instead the unmet need. In keeping with your analogy, so long as everyone has enough to eat in order to survive, everyone is having their needs met. Though this is not what moralizing about slut shaming attempts to confront. It does not aim to increase the sexuality activity of incels, but rather to decrease the sexual activity of sluts. It is destructive rather than constructive, and that is the mark of ressentiment. If you want to make the case that incels would no longer be incels if women were not sluts, then fine, but I do not think anyone genuinely believes this is the case—that women are hypergamous not because it is in their nature, but because they sleep around. Perhaps there are some bluepilled incels reading who think the Jewish feminist conspiracy has made women act in unnatural ways, but I will not concern myself with these incels. I am talking to the incels who realize that women are, by nature, repulsed by incels and compelled by Chad, and that their economic and social freedom has simply allowed them to realize their will.
We want to decrease their sexual activity with chads and increase it with incels.
They're ours.
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