Serious Stop comparing male "volcels" to femcels

[Bangkok or bust]

So many people here throw around articles but never read them. The study asserts that these behaviors are learned.

But more to the point, we see men fucking fat chicks. That's proof enough.



Even if they would, who says they aren't being picky? Or maybe their standards are too low. Who gets to decide what the standards are?

It's ingrained in us to be repelled by overly fat people you faggot. Evolutionary it's not normal to be obese, it's a modern phenomona. Our ancient ancestors simply couldn't consume enough food to be obese.

Men fuck fat chicks because they are sick bastards that failed with slim or normal weight women, not because they fancy fat Chicks.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Petals

 

[FrothySolutions]

It's ingrained in us to be repelled by overly fat people you faggot. Evolutionary it's not normal to be obese, it's a modern phenomona. Our ancient ancestors simply couldn't consume enough food to be obese.

Men fuck fat chicks because they are sick bastards that failed with slim or normal weight women, not because they fancy fat Chicks.

You give these men too much credit. They genuinely like these fat chicks. They don't even see them as "fat" like you do.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Petals

elab

 

[FinnCel]

Not wanting to hump a behemoth does not mean we want a stacy....

But it does make you volcel as you refused to get rid of your celibacy

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

elab

Come on dude. You really don't know about petals?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

But it does make you volcel as you refused to get rid of your celibacy

that's assuming you can get your dick hard to a landwhale

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Normie scum only see landwhales and 9/10 stacies, not women who are plain. They are fucked up in the head. They accuse us of only want stacies when we would love to be with a non-fat looksmatch. 4 or 5/10.

 

[Hate_my_life]

But it does make you volcel as you refused to get rid of your celibacy

that's assuming you can get your dick hard to a landwhale

I'm all for calling out volcels when they deserve to be called out, but as men we need to do better.
It's because of the thinking displayed by people like @FrothySolutions that we're in the current Inceldom predicament.

If men would stop blindly following their nature, think rationally and perhaps not "Hit that deformed chick who has an ok ass" because they're horny: we wouldnt' have landwhales thinking they're entitled to nothing short of a high-tier normie.

We (for the most part) as Incels. That doesn't mean we need to exacerbate the detrimental effects of hypergamy by dumpsterdiving or forcing ourselves (through medical neccessities e.g. Aphrodisiacs) to sustain a sexual session with a woman leagues below you.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

"volcel if you won't bro"

"You can't afford to be that picky sweetie. Stop going for hot skinnies and date regular size women"

 

[FrothySolutions]

I'm all for calling out volcels when they deserve to be called out, but as men we need to do better.
It's because of the thinking displayed by people like @FrothySolutions that we're in the current Inceldom predicament.

If men would stop blindly following their nature, think rationally and perhaps not "Hit that deformed chick who has an ok ass" because they're horny: we wouldnt' have landwhales thinking they're entitled to nothing short of a high-tier normie.

We (for the most part) as Incels. That doesn't mean we need to exacerbate the detrimental effects of hypergamy by dumpsterdiving or forcing ourselves (through medical neccessities e.g. Aphrodisiacs) to sustain a sexual session with a woman leagues below you.

That's a different argument. That's not an "I'm incel and I could get laid if it wasn't for everyone's hatred of me" argument. That's a "Maybe I could get laid, but the standards are too high and I think they should change" argument. It's an anti-hypergamy argument, which isn't specifically an incel issue.

 

[Hate_my_life]

That's not an "I'm incel and I could get laid if it wasn't for everyone's hatred of me" argument. That's a "Maybe I could get laid, but the standards are too high and I think they should change" argument.

Why can't it be both?

I will acknowledge every woman I'll interact with shall treat me with scorn and malice for the rest of my life, However, there's certain foids who'll treat me like shit that I wouldn't even bother pursuing romantically regardless of how they treated me because I feel no sexual desire towards them.

It's an anti-hypergamy argument, which isn't specifically an incel issue.

Hypergamy is the very issue a few members here who I'd describe as "normies" are rotting into their late 20s/30s inspite of all their efforts.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Why can't it be both?

Because if I'm good enough for some women, but I choose not to have sex with them, that's not the same as being incel. Might as well let @Napoleon de Geso come back if that's our standard.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Because if I'm good enough for some women, but I choose not to have sex with them, that's not the same as being incel. Might as well let @Napoleon de Geso come back if that's our standard.

if you can't get your dick hard, there is no choice involved

 

[FrothySolutions]

if you can't get your dick hard, there is no choice involved

Fine, you're a slave to your tastes and there's nothing you can do about it. But either way, you're still being picky and you would still get banned from Incels.co. And every other incel community.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Fine, you're a slave to your tastes and there's nothing you can do about it. But either way, you're still being picky and you would still get banned from Incels.co. And every other incel community.

false, only if you mentioned being approached

 

[FrothySolutions]

false, only if you mentioned being approached

Because we'd know it happened. It's the being volcel that gets you banned. You're allowed to stay if you keep it secret only because there's no way to know a volcel from a truecel unless they out themselves.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Because we'd know it happened. It's the being volcel that gets you banned. You're allowed to stay if you keep it secret only because there's no way to know a volcel from a truecel unless they out themselves.

He's a normie troll you're wasting your time.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

He's a normie troll you're wasting your time.

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cope, you're someone who posts a gorilla on every damn post

Because we'd know it happened. It's the being volcel that gets you banned. You're allowed to stay if you keep it secret only because there's no way to know a volcel from a truecel unless they out themselves.

yup, so don't "brag" about landwhale approaches.

although i've seen people say they could fuck landwhales and not get banned, so that policy seems weird

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

cope, you're someone who posts a gorilla on every damn post

yup, so don't "brag" about landwhale approaches.

although i've seen people say they could fuck landwhales and not get banned, so that policy seems weird

And you waste hours of your life larping as a incel on a forum for lonely users.

Also didn't deny it.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

And you waste hours of your life larping as a incel on a forum for lonely users.

Also didn't deny it.

i did deny it. i said "cope"

the cope is that i'm some larper, it makes you feel better to call others larpers because it makes you feel like the ultimate victim

it's the same with ethnics who call white guys fakecels, it helps them cope with their pathetic lives

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

i did deny it. i said "cope"

the cope is that i'm some larper, it makes you feel better to call others larpers because it makes you feel like the ultimate victim

it's the same with ethnics who call white guys fakecels, it helps them cope with their pathetic lives

How does me calling you out for being a larper make me feel like a victim. Sounds like some cumskin logic.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

How does me calling you out for being a larper make me feel like a victim. Sounds like some cumskin logic.

its the same as the ethnics who call white guys fakecels

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

its the same as the ethnics who call white guys fakecels

I dint see how thats relevant here. I mean I guess

 

[FrothySolutions]

yup, so don't "brag" about landwhale approaches.

although i've seen people say they could fuck landwhales and not get banned, so that policy seems weird

So getting approached means you're not incel. And that's why you're banned.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

So getting approached means you're not incel. And that's why you're banned.

in the context it appears that way, and it's also a brag and mean to other users

but from a technical standpoint if you can't get your dick hard you can't have sex, and thus incel

 

[FrothySolutions]

in the context it appears that way, and it's also a brag and mean to other users

but from a technical standpoint if you can't get your dick hard you can't have sex, and thus incel

By this forum's rules, and the rules of every community, and the very standards of the people here, if you choose not to have sex with someone just because they're not attractive enough for you, that's voluntary.

Consider if the tables were turned. A woman is like "I simply can't get wet down there unless he looks like Chris Evans. I'm a femcel." We'd eviscerate her. On the grounds that she's being too picky. Because in order to be femcel, you need to be wholly unfuckable. We can't hold women to this standard but then shirk it ourselves.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

By this forum's rules, and the rules of every community, and the very standards of the people here, if you choose not to have sex with someone just because they're not attractive enough for you, that's voluntary.

Consider if the tables were turned. A woman is like "I simply can't get wet down there unless he looks like Chris Evans. I'm a femcel." We'd eviscerate her. On the grounds that she's being too picky. Because in order to be femcel, you need to be wholly unfuckable. We can't hold women to this standard but then shirk it ourselves.

see but as I said in the OP, a man must get an erection, a woman on the other hand doesn't need to get wet for sex to occur.

 

[FrothySolutions]

see but as I said in the OP, a man must get an erection, a woman on the other hand doesn't need to get wet for sex to occur.

But we eviscerate her for being picky. Not for the ability or lack thereof to get wet. The pickiness is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

But we eviscerate her for being picky. Not for the ability or lack thereof to get wet. The pickiness is wrong.

her pickiness is wanting a top 1% man, not refusing to have sex with someone who is obese

much much different

 

[FrothySolutions]

her pickiness is wanting a top 1% man, not refusing to have sex with someone who is obese

much much different

So she could say "I can't attract a man who isn't fat, I'm femcel?" No I don't think she could.

And to your point about "Women can technically have sex without arousal, just force it in there," the same can be said of men. For one, you don't need to be attracted to someone to have an erection, you can force an erection. This is how men get raped. For two, the sex doesn't need to be penetrative. You can be intimate with a woman and do all things sexual to her, barring p in v. That's still sex enough to get you banned here.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

So she could say "I can't attract a man who isn't fat, I'm femcel?" No I don't think she could.

And to your point about "Women can technically have sex without arousal, just force it in there," the same can be said of men. For one, you don't need to be attracted to someone to have an erection, you can force an erection. This is how men get raped. For two, the sex doesn't need to be penetrative. You can be intimate with a woman and do all things sexual to her, barring p in v. That's still sex enough to get you banned here.

i mean i guess

seems extreme though, you have to be willing to force an erection to fuck an obese woman?

still extremely different than women. literally ant woman can go on tinder and get a thin normie easily. them only wanting chad is much more picky than a man wanting a woman who isn't a fat fuck

 

[Caesercel]

By this forum's rules, and the rules of every community, and the very standards of the people here, if you choose not to have sex with someone just because they're not attractive enough for you, that's voluntary.

Consider if the tables were turned. A woman is like "I simply can't get wet down there unless he looks like Chris Evans. I'm a femcel." We'd eviscerate her. On the grounds that she's being too picky. Because in order to be femcel, you need to be wholly unfuckable. We can't hold women to this standard but then shirk it ourselves.

I agree. The thing is incels are not the only people affected by rising hypergamy. Every man is, especially normies and volcels larping here. I know so many who could ascend but refuse to, because standards. Its not wrong to have basic standards and we know that in current era those standards are getting harder to be met. But that does not constitute inceldom.

The reason we don't see many blackpilled normies despite this is because they are getting atleast some action and are in contact with women. They are making do with the "30 yo landwhale". Most incels don't have that so its easier for us to be completely blackpilled and say misogynistic things.

 

[FrothySolutions]

i mean i guess

seems extreme though, you have to be willing to force an erection to fuck an obese woman?

still extremely different than women. literally ant woman can go on tinder and get a thin normie easily. them only wanting chad is much more picky than a man wanting a woman who isn't a fat fuck

The sex doesn't have to be penetrative.

And here we come to this subjective definition of what is and isn't too picky. Where is the line, and who decides where it goes? If I simply am not attracted to someone just for being thin, am I wrong?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

The sex doesn't have to be penetrative.

And here we come to this subjective definition of what is and isn't too picky. Where is the line, and who decides where it goes? If I simply am not attracted to someone just for being thin, am I wrong?

well yes, the line is not clear cut

but i still think someone who can't get sex normally (not paying) from non obese woman is incel, assuming they aren't fucking obese women because they can't get their dick hard

 

[FinnCel]

that's assuming you can get your dick hard to a landwhale

Do you get erections in general?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Do you get erections in general?

what do you mean "in general"

i jerk off to hot chicks (stacies and beckies) of course, never landwhales

 

[FinnCel]

what do you mean "in general"

i jerk off to hot chicks (stacies and beckies) of course, never landwhales

If you fucked the girl through gloryhole you wouldn't even know it was a fat chick

 

[Sheogorath]

Not wanting a landwhale doesn't make you volcel, it doesn't.
If you can't get your dick hard to a woman, you're not a volcel for not fucking her, period.

I disagree OP, there are other options if you wanted sex with landwhales

1) eat her out, limp dick does not prevent
2) have her suck your limp cock
3) take viagra and fuck her
4) penis pump and fuck her
5) look at cute girls, get erection for them, fuck her before it dissipates

there are always options to fuck people you're not attracted to, just as foids fuck ugly guys sometimes even if they're not oozing wet for them

They can even get wet by imagining chad just like we get hard by imagining cute virgins

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Plenty of men like women at unhealthy body fat percentages. Inversely, you cannot be "turned gay." Gay stuff isn't banned here because of any legitimate threat of one of us turning actually gay. Now, you can be tricked into performing gay acts, in the sense that you can be worked up into drinking piss. No one actually likes the taste of piss, but you can be convinced you can stomach it.



Because by that logic, any man is an incel just for not getting to be with whatever women fit into his narrow taste range. And that can't be what "incel" means. That's not the way this forum's rules work, or any incel community that has ever been. It's taking the "Incels just wanna fuck models" argument and saying "Well what am I supposed to do? I can only achieve an erection for models."

Your body doesn't distinguish gender attraction to other kinds of attraction, like weight, looks, etc. You are either attracted to what you see or you aren't.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Your body doesn't distinguish gender attraction to other kinds of attraction, like weight, looks, etc. You are either attracted to what you see or you aren't.

"Gender attraction to other kinds of attraction." I don't understand what you're saying?

 

[Deleted member 23682]

I disagree OP, there are other options if you wanted sex with landwhales

1) eat her out, limp dick does not prevent
2) have her suck your limp cock
3) take viagra and fuck her
4) penis pump and fuck her
5) look at cute girls, get erection for them, fuck her before it dissipates

there are always options to fuck people you're not attracted to, just as foids fuck ugly guys sometimes even if they're not oozing wet for them

They can even get wet by imagining chad just like we get hard by imagining cute virgins

i mean i guess

taking it to the extreme then.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

"Gender attraction to other kinds of attraction." I don't understand what you're saying?

Being attracted to feet for example, isn't different from being attracted to one gender over another. It's just you releasing dopamine in the presence of certain stimuli. If your brain doesn't release dopamine and your dk doesn't get hard in the presence of a fat chick, there's nothing you can do about it, other than maybe do drugs like viagra.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Being attracted to feet for example, isn't different from being attracted to one gender over another. It's just you releasing dopamine in the presence of certain stimuli. If your brain doesn't release dopamine and your dk doesn't get hard in the presence of a fat chick, there's nothing you can do about it, other than maybe do drugs like viagra.

But fetishes are taught. You can't be taught to be gay.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

But fetishes are taught. You can't be taught to be gay.

How are fetishes taught? A lot of them come naturally as part what you are just attracted to. No one taught me to have a foot fetish, I just realized it from looking at them that I liked them, and later found out other people do too.

 

[FrothySolutions]

How are fetishes taught? A lot of them come naturally as part what you are just attracted to. No one taught me to have a foot fetish, I just realized it from looking at them that I liked them, and later found out other people do too.

Through your life experiences. You're not born with a foot fetish.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Through your life experiences. You're not born with a foot fetish.

No evidence of that one way or the other. And besides, don't some people most gays are like that because of molestation or some kind of abuse? Can be said in both ways people aren't born gay, and the environmental factors lead you to have those feelings just like foot fetishes (if that's how they work).

 

[FrothySolutions]

No evidence of that one way or the other. And besides, don't some people most gays are like that because of molestation or some kind of abuse? Can be said in both ways people aren't born gay, and the environmental factors lead you to have those feelings just like foot fetishes (if that's how they work).

Who says gays aren't born gay? And doesn't get laughed out of science, or whatever happens to people who present ideas that conflict with the rest of science?

 

[Sheogorath]

If your brain doesn't release dopamine and your dk doesn't get hard in the presence of a fat chick,
there's nothing you can do about it,
other than maybe do drugs like viagra.

I just said you can use porn or fantasy as a fluffer FFS, it's obviously possible.

But fetishes are taught.
You can't be taught to be gay.

I believe memes (life experiences, nurture, teaching, etc.) can influence any kind of preference, be it a fetish for feet or a fetish for cock.

There's no reason to think there's any major difference there.

You can of course also have inborne genetic predispositions like a man with girl hormones that make his brain think like a girl so he becomes a tranny and/or fag because he feels womanly in one respect or another.

It's not an either/or though, it all adds up and multiplies.

don't some people most gays are like that because of molestation or some kind of abuse?

That's one factor that could have contributed to it for some, but I'm not sure what %

You could just as easily argue that foids are mostly born lesbian and then get turned straight by getting raped by men, so I don't know we'd test such theories.

Can be said in both ways people aren't born gay, and the environmental factors lead you to have those feelings just like foot fetishes (if that's how they work).

Or just realize you can approach explanations from both causes in synergy.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

In order for a man to have sex, he must be aroused and get an erection.

In order for a female to have sex.... nothing.

Not wanting a landwhale doesn't make you volcel, it doesn't. If you can't get your dick hard to a woman, you're not a volcel for not fucking her, period.

Stop being idiots and trying to divide the incel community.

this retarded behavior reminds me of this based post about the dumb term "mentalcel"
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Holy Fuck Based thread. If you can't erect to a foid, your not volcel