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It's nonzero if they are NT but essentially zero if they are non NT. That's why some ugly guys that are NT can still ascend. But with dating apps even they aren't having much luck from what you read tbhYeah. But tbh unfortunately for a lot of men, those chances are so low that their pretty much negligence and close to zero for that to ever happen in their lifetime, no matter what they do.
More guys would try imo if long term relationships weren't so fickle now. The fact that a lot of long term relationships are and women have so many chances to stray with social media and online dating makes it not worth it to put yourself through that much strife struggling to get into a relationship.Some guys who can be considered incels might have it much easier to ascend at least once or a few times if they try hard enough and know how to play the odds right in their favor. But even then, the chances are only getting on the drift.