Serious I don’t get the point of moving out of parents house as a incel. Everyone says you gotta be independent, but it won’t help you get foids.

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

Why do normies tell us to move out and get cars and other stupid shit.

I have been living by myself for a decade now and it doesn’t help with girls. I get the the premise of their assumption as in we will have more privacy, but why do we need privacy? We can’t bring over foids anyway so we are just forced to be alone and depressed in our apartment while paying high rent.

if we live with parents then we will save money on rent and still have the same outcome of no foids. We don’t need to pay thousands just to end up more isolated and depressed.

if you feel like you are being a burden on them, then just contribute to buying food for the house. Which should be 400/ month. Way less then 1500 for a apartment.

Tldr: if you are a incel, stay with your parents or you’ll just end up more alone and depressed. Moving out is for chads and roasties so they can have their privacies and bring their sexual partners home

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

I moved out because my mother and I would just fight all day. I have a much better relationship with her now than before.

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

I moved out because my mother and I would just fight all day. I have a much better relationship with her now than before.

Yea if your family doesn’t want you in the house then this won’t work for you.

 

[Incline]

Why do normies tell us to move out and get cars and other stupid shit.

I have been living by myself for a decade now and it doesn’t help with girls. I get the the premise of their assumption as in we will have more privacy, but why do we need privacy? We can’t bring over foids anyway so we are just forced to be alone and depressed in our apartment while paying high rent.

if we live with parents then we will save money on rent and still have the same outcome of no foids. We don’t need to pay thousands just to end up more isolated and depressed.

if you feel like you are being a burden on them, then just contribute to buying food for the house. Which should be 400/ month. Way less then 1500 for a apartment.

Tldr: if you are a incel, stay with your parents or you’ll just end up more alone and depressed. Moving out is for chads and roasties so they can have their privacies and bring their sexual partners home

Yeah maybe if you have normal parents it will work out for you but I moved out as soon as I hit 18.

I moved out because my mother and I would just fight all day. I have a much better relationship with her now than before.

tbh tbh same

 

[Deleted member 20207]

Well, it is nice to not have to share your home with anyone else. Therefore I would like to move out.

When it comes to sexual market value though:
Chad who lives with parents >> Incel who lives by his own.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

Yea if your family doesn’t want you in the house then this won’t work for you.

It's not that she wanted me to move out, but she's the type to come to my room and nag me all day long

 

[radishman]

Being around bickering parents, being at their mercy to when you have to deal with incoming guests, etc.

I mean, there really is more to life than hoping to fuck a foid. I'm not saying don't neet if the parents treat you like a white foid, but I'm sure there are numerous reasons people move out.

Also even if you do want pussy... having your own place makes escortcelling a tad easier.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I rather stay at home

 

[ordinaryotaku]

I prefer being independent tbh. It's a lot more fun and I get more privacy.

 

[Joelossus]

I can't speak for most other guys on here, but personally i don't see a point in moving out anytime soon. I doubt that it actually helps you with girls as much as normies like to pretend. In my expirience a lot of girls don't really give a damn, whether or not a guy still lives with his parents. It can even make you appear quite noble when your parents are a bit older, and you say that you like to take care of them.

 

[Deleted member 31122]

If you have good parents and separate room, I agree that's useless as an incel

 

[Pixycel]

I only plan on staying with my parents long enough to moneymaxx so I can surgery and locationmaxx tbh.

 

[radishman]

I prefer being independent tbh. It's a lot more fun and I get more privacy.

Privacy is a big one. Parents always come in because "muh house muh rules" gets old real quick.

Some parents go full hikkomori and don't bother their neets... mine not so much.

I can't speak for most other guys on here, but personally i don't see a point in moving out anytime soon. I doubt that it actually helps you with girls as much as normies like to pretend. In my expirience a lot of girls don't really give a damn, whether or not a guy still lives with his parents. It can even make you appear quite noble when your parents are a bit older, and you say that you like to take care of them.

That's one of those chads vs inkwell double speak. Inkwells live in their mom's basements... while chads take care of lonely sick parents. If you're good looking they'll make positives out of a negative.

Course chad can fuck in his parent's house no problem, but for normies even as difficult as it is are probably never gonna get laid unless they have a place.

 

[Hate_my_life]

I prefer being independent tbh. It's a lot more fun and I get more privacy.

This.

There's nothing I hate more than having someone just barge into my room. I respect other adults by knocking before I enter, why can't my parents do the same?

Also My room at home is tiny.

 

[Deleted member 14218]

when normshits tell me to move out i always tell em that i work and bring food and pay some bills. They go "" but but u need to move out and be a productive member " But i am a productive member .... "but but move out and shit .

 

[Dr. Dicklet]

I moved out 6 year's ago and I'm still an incel, in fact I'm even more lonely. Stay with ur parents

 

[Deleted member 1983]

i couldnt move out even if i wanted to , for those who arent ukcels, the housing market in the uk is a fucking joke.

Unless you have a well paying job you cant afford to move out, hell my brother who is nearly 40 still lives at home with us and he works a full time job.

 

[Irredeemable]

I simply cannot afford to move out, my parents are stuck with me. If they choose to kick me out, I will rope. Homelessness is too much for me to handle.

 

[Bald Incel]

I'd change this to why have a car?

Cheap shit hole to live in, work 25 hours a week, and F the rest

 

[Deleted member 818]

First, addressing the post: Yes, do whatever you can to live independently of your parents. The privacy and peace of living alone, plus the autonomy to do whatever you want to do in your own place, is worth it. Disregard the foids

Second, that explains why we are suffering under this man made, unnatural, artificial Inceldom.
You guys worship foids like crazy, and put their pussies on diamond pedestals.
And by 'you guys' I mean anyone/everyone that keeps talking about "what is the point of doing X,Y,Z, if foids dont give sex?".

That is retarded, just do whatever you want to do, or don't do whatever you don't want to not do.
Foids will not give you sex anyway. Why is that even relevant to you?
After you accept that, everything has a point. Everything has its "cost x benefit" that is completely unrelated to foids.

STOP WORSHIPPING THE SPAWN OF SATAN CALLED 'WOMEN'!

Are 'you guys' really unable to think or act in any way, shape or form that is unrelated to "foids give sex"?
100% of my life is completely unrelated to that.
I have total knowledge that NOTHING that I ever do or say will make a foid show any interest in me, let alone give me any atom of sex.

"Will doing/not doing this give me sex?"
The answer is NO. For everything. If you are really an Incel, NOTHING you will ever do in life will make foids even CONSIDER for a fraction of a second to give you any sex. Nothing, never, for as long as you live.

You are free now, do whatever you want to do.

Well said.

 

[watcher]

The point is getting away from your parents. I hate my father.

Yea if your family doesn’t want you in the house then this won’t work for you.

Deep inside all parents want their children to move out

I moved out 6 year's ago and I'm still an incel, in fact I'm even more lonely. Stay with ur parents

Brutal, I hope pets are enough to make me feel OK

 

[TallCelFag]

Being “independent” is such a meme, especially if you have decent parents. Much better to live at home and save up for surgeries.

 

[Deadend]

I am disabled and dependent on my parents, I am literally a failure as a person

 

[Deleted member 25467]

I live with my dad and hes a tyrant. I want to move out asap
I live with my dad and hes a tyrant. I want to move out asap
I live with my dad and hes a tyrant. I want to move out asap
I live with my dad and hes a tyrant. I want to move out asap.

 

[Deleted member 24016]

First, addressing the post: Yes, do whatever you can to live independently of your parents. The privacy and peace of living alone, plus the autonomy to do whatever you want to do in your own place, is worth it. Disregard the foids

Second, that explains why we are suffering under this man made, unnatural, artificial Inceldom.
You guys worship foids like crazy, and put their pussies on diamond pedestals.
And by 'you guys' I mean anyone/everyone that keeps talking about "what is the point of doing X,Y,Z, if foids dont give sex?".

That is retarded, just do whatever you want to do, or don't do whatever you don't want to not do.
Foids will not give you sex anyway. Why is that even relevant to you?
After you accept that, everything has a point. Everything has its "cost x benefit" that is completely unrelated to foids.

STOP WORSHIPPING THE SPAWN OF SATAN CALLED 'WOMEN'!

Are 'you guys' really unable to think or act in any way, shape or form that is unrelated to "foids give sex"?
100% of my life is completely unrelated to that.
I have total knowledge that NOTHING that I ever do or say will make a foid show any interest in me, let alone give me any atom of sex.

"Will doing/not doing this give me sex?"
The answer is NO. For everything. If you are really an Incel, NOTHING you will ever do in life will make foids even CONSIDER for a fraction of a second to give you any sex. Nothing, never, for as long as you live.

You are free now, do whatever you want to do.

Desiring sex and intimacy is not foid worship. It’s a human need and the whole point of this forum is that we can’t get sex.

 

[Hector Barbossa]

My mother is dating an obnoxious jackass who has practically moved in with her. I have had this argument with her many times, and she didn't care. I preferred to not tolerate that crap, so I left. Saving money would be great, but I have no alternative unless I want to descend into literal madness.

I have my own place not because normies say it'll help me get girls, but because I want to be left the fuck alone. My apartment doesn't even have any "social" furniture like couches, decorations, dining tables/chairs, or a TV and is generally a mess.

 

[ionlycopenow]

I agree. Stay with them as long as you can. I would have if they didn't make me homeless as soon as I was out of high school. This is only the "norm" because jews profit off young people doing this and getting into massive debt as a result

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

I’m never gonna move out

 

[pyromancer1234]

Moving out for privacy is for men on the cusp of sexual success, a.k.a. normies. Incels are incels no matter the living situation. Conversely (and obviously), Chads will slay in or out of the parental abode.

 

[muharremabi]

Depend on the family.

 

[Yezd]

Moving out would require me to get a job...God no...

 

[Blackpincel]

I disagree.

Living alone allows you to escortcelmaxx better and you don't have people asking you every where are you going every time you leave home.

 

[Miloser]

I fucking hate living with my family, it's always noisy and there is not much space here I feel oppressed and observed all the time;

 

[Saigon Depression]

I disagree.

Living alone allows you to escortcelmaxx better and you don't have people asking you every where are you going every time you leave home.

True, I was only able to use an escort when nobody was at home.

 

[Greyjediincel]

First, addressing the post: Yes, do whatever you can to live independently of your parents. The privacy and peace of living alone, plus the autonomy to do whatever you want to do in your own place, is worth it. Disregard the foids

Second, that explains why we are suffering under this man made, unnatural, artificial Inceldom.
You guys worship foids like crazy, and put their pussies on diamond pedestals.
And by 'you guys' I mean anyone/everyone that keeps talking about "what is the point of doing X,Y,Z, if foids dont give sex?".

That is retarded, just do whatever you want to do, or don't do whatever you don't want to not do.
Foids will not give you sex anyway. Why is that even relevant to you?
After you accept that, everything has a point. Everything has its "cost x benefit" that is completely unrelated to foids.

STOP WORSHIPPING THE SPAWN OF SATAN CALLED 'WOMEN'!

Are 'you guys' really unable to think or act in any way, shape or form that is unrelated to "foids give sex"?
100% of my life is completely unrelated to that.
I have total knowledge that NOTHING that I ever do or say will make a foid show any interest in me, let alone give me any atom of sex.

"Will doing/not doing this give me sex?"
The answer is NO. For everything. If you are really an Incel, NOTHING you will ever do in life will make foids even CONSIDER for a fraction of a second to give you any sex. Nothing, never, for as long as you live.

You are free now, do whatever you want to do.

This is essentially my outlook, but without the hatred of women. Hatred makes you suffer.

I am disabled and dependent on my parents, I am literally a failure as a person

If you're disabled, you aren't a failure. You never got a chance to play.

 

[Eschewcel]

I've done that, and at least I am not subject to their schedules, I am not their slave. I decide what I do when I want to and there is no one to piss me off.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Way less then 1500 for a apartment

Why the hell would you bother living in such an expensive area as an incel is a better question I think

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

I moved out as soon as I could and I don't regret it. My parents and siblings would always fight and make noise, we had shitty internet, I couldn't take naps, drink or smoke because my parents are control freaks, and we lived at a crappy location far from any stores.

 

[curryboy420]

Might work for some rich white faggot who's parents own a fuckin mansion like all the white losers i knew, but let's say you live in a ghetto with 6 other family members and your house is 150 years old and moldy and breaking and there aren't enough bedrooms for everyone so you sleep in a repurposed closet smaller than a prison cell. And your family has mental illness like OCD which makes living with them like walking on eggshells which gives you more anxiety than your anxiety disorders. Then its good to move out if you have the money to.

 

[NothinButAComedy]

not everything's about foids dawg

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Well, it is nice to not have to share your home with anyone else. Therefore I would like to move out.

When it comes to sexual market value though:
Chad who lives with parents >> Incel who lives by his own.

Chad who [insert anything] >>> Incel who [insert anything]

 

[Hector Barbossa]

First, desiring sex, intimacy, and I must add romance, friendship and even adventure as well is very important. Those are not foid worship feelings/ideals.

But, that is not what OP describes. No. He asks in the title: "I don’t get the point of moving out of parents house as a incel. Everyone says you gotta be independent, but it won’t help you get foids.". And then he goes on to justify that.

He sees no other reason to move out of his parents home, and have a home of his own, and his own privacy and his own independency other than how foids will react to his decision. That is, low-key, foid worshiping.

And it goes down a path of nihilism:
"Why move out of your parents home if foids will not give you sex?"
"Why get a job if foids will not give you sex anyway?"
"Why have basic hygiene, if no matter how much you groom, or how well you present yourself, that is not enough to overcome your ugliness and thus foids will show no interest?"
"Why eat properly, drink water/hydrate adequately if none of those things will matter to getting foids?
"Why live at all if the women don't show any attraction towards me?"
"Isn't reproduction and healthy offspring's the ultimate goal of life? Then why keep existing if I already failed the most basic task that, not only for humans, but ANY and ALL living beings across the Universe (maybe even the Multiverse) has the existential duty to fulfill?"

When your life decisions are based on "how will this make foids sex me?" rather than "how will this satisfy myself?" then, as I see it, that is foid worship.

It's necessary to accept that as society is now, natural relationships with women are impossible for ugly men. The game is rigged beyond saving. Money is a tool, do not worship it, and use it wisely. No, no amount of it will make foids like you. Lot's of money will only attract foids that will try to use you, exploit you, get all of your money and privileges, while giving you no sex.

I must make this explicit: It's not that they will try to give you as little sex as possible, like once a month. Nope.
THEY WILL EXPLOIT YOU AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY AND GIVE ZERO, NADA, NO SEX IN RETURN!

The only sure way to use money and get sex is through legal and lawful prostitution... (I SAID LEGAL AND LAWFUL In all the countries in which such legislation applies! IF IT'S NOT LEGAL IN YOUR CONTRY THEN DON'T DO IT!)

[FBI BE GONE!]

And even the problem of reproduction can be solved through LEGAL surrogate mothers.

Recently, I've felt myself falling down that exact same path of nihilism that you've outlined here. Your posts in this thread might help pull me back to reality - thank you.

I suppose the most difficult problem I have with following your advice is accepting that I've already lost. I know I can fulfill my desire for sex and intimacy through prostitution, at least partially, but not to the degree that I'd like. I want more. Something sustainable, consistent. It's the hope that I can do better (spend less on a potential gf to get more of my needs met instead of expensive western prostitution which only satisfies some of my needs), or that romance does exist, which holds me back. I guess maybe it's ultimately a self esteem problem, where I don't consider my survival or independence to be worthy motivators by themselves.

 

[Deleted member 27161]

I'd move out if I had the money tbh

 

[Hector Barbossa]

I will pray for you. I believe you are stronger than you think you are.
Nihilism made me lazy, and comfortable for a time. Comfort is a powerful trap, takes a lot of willpower to overcome it.

Romance exists. But ugly men only experience it in a "one-sided" manner. Because we are only perceived as romantic after the women knows us better and more intimately, and after she talks with us many times and for long periods. Ugly men are only romantic, after women spent time in intimacy with them.

Today, foids decide if they will give you attention in the first 1 second after they look at you face. And anything less than Omega Chad gets nothing. So romance exists, but attaining it is impossible in the way that society currently is.

Women give you no chance to have them know you better. They are only interested in immediate self gratification.

Something happened with women worldwide. From remote villages at the interior of Croatia, to mega cities like New York. That "something sustainable and consistent" doesn't happen anymore, now that foids can quit relationships and seek chad cock at any time they want.

For something to become consistent, by definition, it has to happen many times over a long period of time. Foids have no patience. As soon as something makes them unsatisfied, they abandon it. If a guy is not Omega Chad, they give him no opportunity. The foids themselves don't have "something consistent", they are always jumping from Chad cock to Chad cock.

"I guess maybe it's ultimately a self esteem problem, where I don't consider my survival or independence to be worthy motivators by themselves." Maybe you need to have a cope that is attached to those things?

Thank you so much for your support - I will definitely bookmark/screenshot this. I wish this forum had more positivity - something I know I could personally work on.

I think romance can exist, too - it's just that the current paradigm has shifted towards quick split-second takes, as you've said. I know that while I'm nowhere near a Chad in terms of looks, I have a lot to offer in terms of intelligence and personality. The problem I have is that there's no opportunity to build intimacy over longer periods of time these days. People who know me well would describe me as nice, mature, intelligent, and practically a Teddy bear. But these days it's impossible to convey those traits before a woman loses interest for something physically "better". The pandemic mentality doesn't help, either. As a collective society, we have forgotten how to focus and pay attention to the long term. It's cucked as fuck, but ironically the only long-term relationship I feel I can consistently build without rejection is with an escort. Perhaps that's more a commentary on modern women than it is on me.

I feel how nihilism can make one lazy, though. Sometimes it's comfortable to know that I've failed and I can just sit back and watch it all burn. I've briefly overcome nihilism once before, in that it's pointless to stew in misery and rather focus on your future success in the one life you'll ever live, but I still need that one push in overcoming my ego so that I can forget about how other people are doing, and just focus on myself.

I think I will try to find a cope that is connected to my survival, as you've said. I've been considering medication again to give me that initial motivation for such a cope, but we shall see. Maybe walking or hiking in nature would be a good way to deal with things?

 

[N-Digger]

My normie friend keeps mentioning occasionally that I should move out and come and live in the city. He lives in a tiny one-bedroom apartment in the city centre that costs more in rent than the four bedroom house that I'm living in currently. Living in some overcrowded, dirty city filled to the brim with foreigners spending most of my paycheck on rent is the last thing I'd want to do.
I don't have an proper income which would allow me to live independently but even if I did I would rather keep on living with my parents for the foreseeable future. I'm not in a rush to move out like some of you guys because the relationship I have with them is very good.
The idea that you should move out of your parent's home at such a young age is a very modern idea that came from the baby boomer generation. Before that it was acceptable to live your parents until you got properly established and families were more tight knit and cared for each other more. In the Boomers generation things were doing so well economically that anyone could get a job with no skills to speak of and have enough money to support themselves and a family. So in that age, if you were still living with your parents it showed that you were a failure who couldn't even work a basic job. Obviously things have become much worse since then.

 

[Deleted member 27161]

It can help you hold Foids hostage, and you'd be able to do what you want tbh
That and I hate my family and have a bad relationship with them

 

[Schizoidcel]

I am way too autistic to live alone, when my mom dies I will die as well.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Imagine moving out as an incel JFL. "Just move out of your parent's place and start living life bro". Iam 33 and stay with my mom. She cooks for me, so i can spend more time on copes.

 

[PPEcel]

Why the fuck would you want to live with your parents

 

[FUCKITALLREEE]

You need to have no choice but to be a good working drone enslaved by you bills just to eat and sleep in box.