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Had to stop you at the anti-rich shit.

Literally every country on earth discriminates against the rich. THe rich are taxed to shit in America and it all goes to foids on welfare.
Lol Yankland is the most hyper-capitalist country on Earth. It has the lowest tax rates in the western world. "Discriminates against the rich". The rich exploit the poor in a billion different ways and exert power over them using cartels, monopolies, control of the media, control of elections and political parties etc etc. The rich control everything and the poor don't get a fair price for their labour. There's no benefit to society of billionaires and monopolies, only negatives. Money is a finite resource, no indvidual has the right to horde thousands of times more than their fair share-- a 6 year old could tell you how unfair such a system is.

The rich don't even pay their taxes and benefit from huge tax breaks and subsidies, as well as using all manner of tax-funded public services. You think Jeff Bezos should earn more than $205mil per day for decimating the high street while paying his employees 9$ per hour? Taxation is progressive because wealth is progressive-- money is self-replicating, the more you have, the easier it is to make more.
 
Lol Yankland is the most hyper-capitalist country on Earth.
America isn't capitalist, it's nearly full on communist after 3 years of President Brandon
It has the lowest tax rates in the western world.
Canada has a lower corporate tax, America has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
"Discriminates against the rich". The rich exploit the poor in a billion different ways and exert power over them using cartels, monopolies, control of the media, control of elections and political parties etc etc. The rich control everything and the poor don't get a fair price for their labour.
In America the "poor" don't work, if they did work they'd be rich because America's legal system is so rigged towards the worker that corporations are going bnakrupt to pay extremely high worker compensations. Workers in America are earning 60k a year jerking off to porn without touching their laptops.
There's no benefit to society of billionaires and monopolies, only negatives. Money is a finite resource, no indvidual has the right to horde thousands of times more than their fair share-- a 6 year old could tell you how unfair such a system is.
It's fair because they're actually going to do good things with it, invest in the economy, innovate, build business, etc... what's a laboroer going to do? Go to the bar and blow it on drinks and buy useless consumer shit. Billionaires earned that money.
The rich don't even pay their taxes and benefit from huge tax breaks and subsidies,
In America they pay nearly 100% of the taxes.
as well as using all manner of tax-funded public services. You think Jeff Bezos should earn more than $205mil per day for decimating the high street while paying his employees 9$ per hour? Taxation is progressive because wealth is progressive-- money is self-replicating, the more you have, the easier it is to make more.
That's not true, it's easier to make more on your money at the bottom end.

If I have $5,000, all i have to do is save $5,000 next year to DOUBLE my net worth

If i have $70 billion, it will be very hard and risky to double it.
 
America isn't capitalist, it's nearly full on communist after 3 years of President Brandon
Yes, the country which doesn't even have tax-funded healthcare is "Communist". The country which doesn't have the most basic of consumer rights, worker rights, whose unions were crippled 40 years ago, which has gaping income and wealth inequality, where an ambulance ride costs $1000 and half the population doesn't have $500 in the bank is "Communist".
Canada has a lower corporate tax, America has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
The average tax rate is about 0.5% higher in Canada. Most corporations don't even pay corporation tax, so who cares? They just reinvest profits into the company, or they offshore profits. Then they get their salaries and dividends paid into companies so they pay the corporation tax on it instead of the higher income tax. The whole western world has been neoliberal for 40+ years though, so it's splitting hairs. But at least in non-Yank countries people get something for their taxes-- most of the taxes in Yankland get spent on the military.
In America the "poor" don't work, if they did work they'd be rich because America's legal system is so rigged towards the worker
Lmao.
It's fair because they're actually going to do good things with it, invest in the economy, innovate, build business, etc... what's a laboroer going to do? Go to the bar and blow it on drinks and buy useless consumer shit. Billionaires earned that money.
Uh, going to the bar and buying useless consumer shit is "investing it in the economy". The poor spend all their money (and more)-- that's investing it in the economy. The rich spend 1% of their income. That's the opposite of "investing it in the economy". The rich use their money to buy up media, to buy political parties, to gain advantage in the legal system etc. As for "innovation", most worthwhile innovation is funded by the state and/or undertaken by someone not primarily driven by profit. What rich cunts do is "innovate" "useless consumer shit". They aren't motivated by producing things of value, they're motivated by producing things which make money. Most of their "innovations" are around how to exploit peoples' labour and stupidity.

In America they pay nearly 100% of the taxes.
Too wrong to even both correcting.
That's not true, it's easier to make more on your money at the bottom end.

If I have $5,000, all i have to do is save $5,000 next year to DOUBLE my net worth

If i have $70 billion, it will be very hard and risky to double it.
The value of money is relative not to your previous worth but to how much money other people have. It's beyond easy af to make money with money. Give me half a mil and I'll buy 16 houses, rent them all out and have an annual income of £80k, and 16 drastically appreciating assets which will be worth at least £1mil in 20 years. After which I'll be making £160k/year and have £1mil in my bank. So I'll have turned £500k into £1.6mil and have £160k rolling in each year. For doing ZERO FUCKING WORK-- and driving up house prices and helping to destroy society and the economy.

That's how most money is made. By exploiting people and the system. Why didn't you answer my questions about Bezos btw?
 
Difference is foids have privileges cuz of their SMV and get shit handed to them without ever contributing to anything. Whites have privileges because they built modern society. If you can’t understand that you’re either a black crybaby, or a retard manipulated by the jews.

Everyone knows nigs are way closer to foids than “white pple”
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Yes, the country which doesn't even have tax-funded healthcare is "Communist". The country which doesn't have the most basic of consumer rights, worker rights, whose unions were crippled 40 years ago, which has gaping income and wealth inequality, where an ambulance ride costs $1000 and half the population doesn't have $500 in the bank is "Communist".
You're fucking retarded, employers and companies are being sued for trillions every year because of "MUH CONSUMER RIGHTS". A consumer can literally spill coffee on their balls, and sue for a billion dollars in America, thats how pro-consumer they are.
The average tax rate is about 0.5% higher in Canada. Most corporations don't even pay corporation tax, so who cares? They just reinvest profits into the company, or they offshore profits. Then they get their salaries and dividends paid into companies so they pay the corporation tax on it instead of the higher income tax. The whole western world has been neoliberal for 40+ years though, so it's splitting hairs. But at least in non-Yank countries people get something for their taxes-- most of the taxes in Yankland get spent on the military.
That's not how offshoring works at all moron, they offshore money that was ALREADY TAXED at 38% you fucking commie, and it's TAXXED AGAIN WHEN ITS BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S
Lmao.

Uh, going to the bar and buying useless consumer shit is "investing it in the economy".
No it isn't, it's wasting our resources you illiterate
The poor spend all their money (and more)-- that's investing it in the economy.
No it isn't, that's the opposite of investing, that's spending.
The rich spend 1% of their income. That's the opposite of "investing it in the economy". The rich use their money to buy up media, to buy political parties, to gain advantage in the legal system etc.
That actually drives the economy since it invests in our economy and future producton
As for "innovation", most worthwhile innovation is funded by the state and/or undertaken by someone not primarily driven by profit.
True, and that's why I'm 100% for state deficits to fund military and science projects
What rich cunts do is "innovate" "useless consumer shit". They aren't motivated by producing things of value, they're motivated by producing things which make money. Most of their "innovations" are around how to exploit peoples' labour and stupidity.


Too wrong to even both correcting.

The value of money is relative not to your previous worth but to how much money other people have. It's beyond easy af to make money with money.
Then make money with your money
Give me half a mil and I'll buy 16 houses, rent them all out and have an annual income of £80k,
And when those houses drop, you'll be whining that you were screwed by rising interest rates lol.
and 16 drastically appreciating assets which will be worth at least £1mil in 20 years.
By that logic, just invest in the S&P500, if it's so easy. You can do that now.
After which I'll be making £160k/year and have £1mil in my bank. So I'll have turned £500k into £1.6mil and have £160k rolling in each year. For doing ZERO FUCKING WORK-- and driving up house prices and helping to destroy society and the economy.

That's how most money is made. By exploiting people and the system. Why didn't you answer my questions about Bezos btw?
 
Blacks did
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13 million white males were sleeping while 2 million black males were building everything? Come on...
 
Look up "slavery".

Shut the fuck up.
2 million house black slaves built everything while 13 million whites were doing what? sleeping? :feelskek: do you really believe that? :feelshaha:
 
2 million house black slaves built everything while 13 million whites were doing what? sleeping? :feelskek: do you really believe that? :feelshaha:
Yeah sure, because 2 million black slaves did absolutely nothing, that's why they were enslaved.
 
Yeah sure, because 2 million black slaves did absolutely nothing, that's why they were enslaved.
these 2 million were probably just house slaves as we had in Brazil :feelsjuice: the majority population was made by white workers who built America while that "1%" priviliged blacks were in their Senzalas
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these 2 million were probably just house slaves as we had in Brazil :feelsjuice: the majority population was made by white workers who built America while that "1%" priviliged blacks were in their Senzalas
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Those pics are from the Great Depression, AFTER SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED

Holy fuck you're down syndrome
 
Those pics are from the Great Depression, AFTER SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED

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keep coping black worshipper, whites built America, they were a 27 million majority, dont come here with your kike propaganda :feelswhat:
 
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Every white person has the advantages of systemic racism
JFL @ believing this leftist meme.

JFL @ having your views on race changed by a self-professed "anti-White propagandist."
 
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I'm looking at raw data, not a pre-conceinved worldview.
Could you please share with the rest of us, then, this raw data that you've used to inform and guide the conclusions in your original post?

You know the arguments for systemic racism are the same as arguments for the Blackpill right?
The black pill uses data and studies to back up and demonstrate its claims, not philosophical arguments. If something isn't demonstrated in the observational world, it's not black pill. You could posit hypotheses, but just like in applied science, you have to show data that supports those hypotheses. Gather enough of these statistically-backed claims and you can use them create a theory with which you check further studies to confirm/deny its explanatory power. This is how black pill theory develops. Incidentally, it's also exactly like how science develops (because I literally just spelled out the scientific method).
 
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@Intellectual also, please answer true, false, or I don't know for the following statement:

There are no inherent differences between the races of people.
 
You're fucking retarded, employers and companies are being sued for trillions every year because of "MUH CONSUMER RIGHTS". A consumer can literally spill coffee on their balls, and sue for a billion dollars in America, thats how pro-consumer they are.
Lol. Consumers in Yankland don't even have the right to a refund. In the UK, the consumer has pretty much the divine right to a refund for any product within 28 days (provided it isn't a one-use or consumable product, or there's some other reasonable caviat), no questions asked. This doesn't exist in Yankland. You can sue in Yankland yes, if you have a spare $10k to spend on doing so-- which 80% of the population doesn't.

I gave you the share of earning at Amazon. Bezos makes over $200mil per day, the bottom tier worker makes $90/day. That's 200 million times the salary. Do you think Bezos works 200 million times harder and brings 200 million times the social value as a standard Amazon worker? Do you think that system benefits society? He's also used his wealth to buy the Washington Post.

They engage in all manner of anti-worker and regulation practices. Such as firing and rehiring workers to avoid employee rights kicking in after an allotted time at the company. They call employees "associates" and do everything in their power to crush any attempts at unionising:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQeGBHxIyHw
While treating their "associates" like slave labour, tracking their every movement electronically. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56628745 The working conditions at Amazon are akin to Chinese sweat shops.

That's not how offshoring works at all moron, they offshore money that was ALREADY TAXED at 38% you fucking commie, and it's TAXXED AGAIN WHEN ITS BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S
They offshore the company you absolute retard. So the company is based abroad. Corporation tax for foreign companies in Yankland is 4%. They also hire foreign labour whenever possible. Monopolies are anti-competition and anti-capitalism.
No it isn't, it's wasting our resources you illiterate

No it isn't, that's the opposite of investing, that's spending.
It's investing IN THE ECONOMY. The economy is being invested in. Rich cunts who horde all their wealth in assets aren't investing in the economy-- that's dead money.
That actually drives the economy since it invests in our economy and future producton
Lmao. Buying media cartels and political parties. Lmao.
Then make money with your money
I don't have any money.
And when those houses drop, you'll be whining that you were screwed by rising interest rates lol.
House prices never drop, long-term. Especially here in the UK. We're a tiny island with a soaring population, and mass immigration isn't stopping any time soon. And continual house prices rises is a core tenet of neoliberalism. Which also isn't stopping any time soon.
By that logic, just invest in the S&P500, if it's so easy. You can do that now.
I don't know what that is. But it's hard to make serious money investing in anything if you don't have the startup capital. When you have money you have power over people who don't have money, it's pretty simple.
 
The black pill uses data and studies to back up and demonstrate its claims, not philosophical arguments. If something isn't demonstrated in the observational world, it's not black pill.
Racism/colorism is backed by facts, data, and statistics though. It's only bluepilled stormcucks who deny this.

Why else would the scientific blackpill have an entire section dedicated to race? That's only with regards to dating. And we all know dating disparities translate pretty comfortably to other things such as housing, employment, the law etc.


Even IncelTV constantly brings up data points regarding race.

You guys only care about "science" when you can use it to push a delusional caucuscuck agenda.

There's also clearly a correlation with the most delusional "blackpill" commentators being white and tacit deniers of colorism/racism, such as Wheat Waffles.
 
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cashapp me 10 dollars for reparations
 
Racism/colorism is backed by facts, data, and statistics though. It's only bluepilled stormcucks who deny this.
OK, great. Let's see the numbers that have completely changed OP's mind. Changing your mind on a core belief isn't a trivial matter and doesn't happen lightly by any stretch of the imagination, so whatever it was must have been hellishly convincing.

It's more likely that it was just a case of confirmation bias, but I'm open to the idea that OP legitimately went through a transformative event right here on incels.is and changed his belief on something so fundamental.
 
I'm looking at raw data, not a pre-conceinved worldview.
Could you please share with the rest of us, then, this raw data that you've used to inform and guide the conclusions in your original post?
@Intellectual Just as I thought. You're Full of shit. There is no data. You literally just got a Black guy on the forum to support your confirmation bias.

Fucking KEK.

When the hell are you going admit you came here from reddit?
 
@Intellectual Just as I thought. You're Full of shit. There is no data. You literally just got a Black guy on the forum to support your confirmation bias.

Fucking KEK.

When the hell are you going admit you came here from reddit?
The studies show I'm right you dumbass.
 
They shouldn't be hard to find, you can google them.
I don't believe you when you say some studies changed your mind. That's why I wanted to see what exactly changed your mind supposedly.
 
Blacks get more privileges in whites in modern society because Jew influenced white guilt.
I agree, but it's mainly welfare benefits that I don't qualify for since I am a wage slave. NEET niggers get to take the most advantage of it.
 
No it's not, it's a widely known phenomenon. If you actually cared to educate yourself on the subject (clearly you don't) you would know that. I'm fairly certain blacks experience the same things and even worse in other countries, particularly in the West. But these countries tend to have a much smaller black population with different histories/cultures, which is probably so many are oblivious or dismissive of racial biases. I could listen to someone like Sa Ra Garvey or some other black person in a different country.

Are you including Neo-Nazis and white extremists in this "stupid racial ideologies..."?

I'm assuming by Yankland you mean the USA. You keep putting the cart before the horse and assuming ideologies spawn out of thin air as opposed to a simple cause and effect. Unless you've really studied the US (which you clearly haven't) it's not likely you'd have a deeper understanding of how this happens.

African immigrants don't face the same issues either nor have they been deliberately sabotaged over and over over the course of centuries (and on every level) in the same manner as black Americans. That includes culture. African immigrants even brag about this saying that they "didn't descend from slaves" and things like this. Nigerians call black americans "akata" (cotton picker) They end up playing the same "model minority" role where they basically align themselves with whites to scoff at and disparage black americans.

One of the biggest advantages they tend to have is two-parent households because their communities are relatively untouched by the kind of overcharged feminism that was deliberately fed into the black community specifically by (((CIA))) types like Gloria Steinem. Historically we have seen what black americans can do without such constant tampering.

That's not how that works. The reason the Democratic party is basically hemorrhaging black supporters these days is because blacks realize voting for one party over and over doesn't actually incentivize them to actually do anything to uplift you. Neither party is really of service to blacks and if you paid attention to anything other than optics you would realize that.

The Democrat party is also littered with "Dixiecrat" types who utterly despise black people deep down which is why you hear Joe Biden say things like "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black", "we gon put yall back in chains!", "my family used to own slaves!". Not to mention the infamous '94 crime bill, which is perfect example of racial legislation. Kamala Harris's record on locking up blacks is similar.

I don't believe Biden wasn't even elected but that's another story. That election was rigged. Conscious blacks do not support either party.

It's quite the same with men. Feminists will say they only judge us as men because we're rapists and commit all the crimes and do all the bad things. So they're not "biased" they're just realists. *shrug*

There is plenty of evidence showing that the entire system is anti-black to a degree yet you will continue to deny this. You don't even need the evidence, an honest pair of eyes will do.

And why do you think that is? Prisons are basically modern day slavery. The US has a prison industrial complex and is basically set up to funnel black youth straight from the womb to prison (school-to-prison pipeline), economics, drugs, pumping millions into marketing a culture of death etc. This is another well-documented phenomenon. Rick Ross would literally get his drugs from the feds. He was effectively a federal agent with federal supervisors telling him how to handle his operation.

It is economic partially, but as stated above, there's more to it than "black people bad". Clearly you can see that.

Even if it were to take that at face value, it's still a disparity and 11% is a whole lot when you're standing in front of a judge. Clearly they tried their best to eliminate race as playing a role and still failed lol. And the justice system is just one string in a huge web of anti-blackness.

Your delusion is showing again. These little ticky tack diversity policies are heavily skewed to benefit females over males. It's questionable how much effect they even have and it's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the massive institutional advantages that whites have had for centuries built on the backs of others.

You can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. You can focus on rich but also understand that race plays a role and the majority of the holders of wealth in the west are cacs and jews. Any else is veiled bluepill just world belief.

It's not impossible at all. If you can attempt to disprove racial bias using numbers then clearly you can prove privilege in the same manner. How would you go about proving female privilege is real? You'd probably look at things such as lifespan, spending power, etc. And even in lieu of that, simple common sense analyses and observations will do. Someone mentioned earlier the studies of having a "black sounding name" on employment applications. Even little things like this....

Race is one aspect of the blackpilled world we live in, but it is a big one.

Women and jews get to play the victim while holding massive amounts of privilege. When people want to talk down on blacks in the mainstream they'll use some token minority as a mouthpiece (like many black cuckservatives) or speak in code. Either way there's a difference between the optics of privilege and reality.


Whites quite clearly have the advantage in both blue and white collar jobs. Especially the good ones. I don't think the average white person has some ungodly amount of privilege. But they have more than their nonwhite counterpart.

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I agree with alot of what you're saying. There's no doubt alot of systemic damage done to blacks. Although the entire blame can't be just put on the system, personal responsibility definitely plays a part, especially with how you see so many black guys obsessed with whitness

But that begs the question. Why has there never been a succesful black nation ever? Why is it that blacks are low-class EVERYWHERE? From America to Brazil, from iraq to Iran, blacks in these countries are always the poorest. It's a global phenomena

And in that same note, why are arabs, indians, and Europeans in places like Uganda or Tanzania far better off compared to the black locals? Arabs in Tanzania for example are the upper class. Uganda is heavily dependent on its indian population as well.
 
I agree with alot of what you're saying. There's no doubt alot of systemic damage done to blacks. Although the entire blame can't be just put on the system, personal responsibility definitely plays a part, especially with how you see so many black guys obsessed with whitness

But that begs the question. Why has there never been a succesful black nation ever? Why is it that blacks are low-class EVERYWHERE? From America to Brazil, from iraq to Iran, blacks in these countries are always the poorest. It's a global phenomena

And in that same note, why are arabs, indians, and Europeans in places like Uganda or Tanzania far better off compared to the black locals? Arabs in Tanzania for example are the upper class. Uganda is heavily dependent on its indian population as well.
Global systemic racism, goy. Stop questioning things.
 
I agree with alot of what you're saying. There's no doubt alot of systemic damage done to blacks. Although the entire blame can't be just put on the system, personal responsibility definitely plays a part,
Then you have to apply this argument to every demographic that isn't on top. If you can recognize the systemic damage, it's not farfetched to say that it exists globally. If it exists in the places which are the most "free"...

Some numbers will show hispanics and native americans making less than blacks. No one rushes to indict them for it.

Men as a group have always been the low-class laborers. Women make up the vast majority of consumer purchases. So even if we make more money, women are the ones spending it and taking most of the public benefits which we pour disproportionately into.

In the city of Pompeii, it was found that the men had darker skin than the women because they were working outside while the women stayed home. Men are the niggas of the world. Niggas are the men of the world. Even with that, women are quickly starting to out-earn men. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/ They've already taken over higher learning institutions. Not because they're better, but because they're now able to take advantage of similar institutional benefits that whites have already been getting. I kind of touched on this in the affirmative action thread.

The US is the most powerful country on the planet. Does this mean that US citizens are superior to non-US? Privilege and supremacy are not the same. The average white american is probably broke compared to the average indian or asian. Does this mean they are inferior?

"Class" as we think of it today is Eurocentric. Historically it has always been used to push a just world, capitalistic, racist narrative. I don't think Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, or Gates are truly worthy or deserving of their position on the basis of them being "higher IQ" or somehow inherently better than anyone. Same for pretty much anyone who finds themselves in an overprivileged position. Micro or macro. This includes me. As a NEET of the US, I'm technically more privileged than the majority of people in this world. Not because I deserve it, but simply because I was born in the right place at the right time. Any personal competence on my part is secondary.
especially with how you see so many black guys obsessed with whitness
There are people like that. But I have a large circle of black men. I think you're overestimating how prevalent that actually is. I don't think noticing racism is an obsession, if that is what you meant.
But that begs the question. Why has there never been a succesful black nation ever? Why is it that blacks are low-class EVERYWHERE? From America to Brazil, from iraq to Iran, blacks in these countries are always the poorest. It's a global phenomena

And in that same note, why are arabs, indians, and Europeans in places like Uganda or Tanzania far better off compared to the black locals? Arabs in Tanzania for example are the upper class.
Has there ever been a "successful" European nation without the systematic plundering of other nations? (How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney).

Plenty of history, inventions and so on have been swept over the rug. HomeTeam History on YouTube does a great job compiling this sort of thing. History is written by the victors.

I've already given the blueprint on why. This is also why "go back to Africa" is a dumb argument, as if the claws of caucuskikes aren't sunken in deep over there as well. Black people do not exist in a vacuum, so if we are going to be responsible, it can't be one-sided. Caucuskikes who couldn't survive on their own simply invented justifications such as "civilization" to plunder and pillage from other groups. Now the pot wants to call the kettle black when the shoe is on the other foot. They also used religion, creating "slave bibles" which omitted key passages.

In America we already know about the various "black wall streets" that existed and surpassed plenty of white communities. In Africa and the Caribbean there are analogs to this. Of course the natural response of the cave demon to this is always envy and violence. Even now there are entire black towns buried under lakes and built over.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/hg_AUN_YhR0?feature=share

Uganda is heavily dependent on its indian population as well.
We have a globalized economy. Every nation is dependent on some other nation somewhere. Europeans are actually the best example of this because Europe has like the least resources, including human resources. White people do not shit natural resources out of their "godly" assholes. Even now they're trying to turn Uganda into a safe haven for gays and god help any African man who has the audacity to get in their way.

I think people overlook how strong the autoimmune response is to any African attempts to self-determine. Black leaders who threaten to galvanize blacks are persecuted or assassinated. There's a long list of them in and outside the US.

Another example is passport bros. You have a whole TikTok showing how white sexpats have been molesting children in these countries since time immemorial and engaging other degenerate activities. Yet traveling black men tired of american women's attitudes is enough to start a big fuss in various nations. And THEY are the ones accused of pedophilia and ran out of the country by feminists and cucks (Auston Holleman).

Even the likes of Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein...why are so many Middle Eastern countries still unstable? It must be that Arabs are bad people and violent terrorists. I mean that's what the white man told me!

Same thing with reparations. People have relatively little to say about the other groups who received reparations, nothing to say about reverse reparations (France, Civil War). Black reparations is enough to get random people with little to no real attachment to the issue up in arms.

Even South African white racists like Stephen Mitford Goodson (Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind) confess, they just blame the jews and bankers for it. Which I don't entirely disagree with. I just don't believe Europeans are guiltless. Various whites throughout history have sold out their people in favor of jewish moneylenders. Are they "responsible" for that? Or is it the big bad jew manipulating innocent whites (who just happened to be genocidal warhawks and robber barons)?
 
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Then you have to apply this argument to every demographic that isn't on top. If you can recognize the systemic damage, it's not farfetched to say that it exists globally. If it exists in the places which are the most "free"...
Yes, correct.

Some numbers will show hispanics and native americans making less than blacks. No one rushes to indict them for it.
That's most probably because of the crime statistics of Natives to Blacks is comparably low.

Men as a group have always been the low-class laborers. Women make up the vast majority of consumer purchases. So even if we make more money, women are the ones spending it and taking most of the public benefits which we pour disproportionately into.
This is true, but it's not a supporting reason for the system privilege of Whites. Men of every race, religion, and ethnicity work to give their resources to their family. Their women, with whom they have children, are, by definition, family.

This fact of human sexual and social relations is not a systemic (institutional) privilege. This is simply how things are between men and women all around the world.

Systemic privileges in the West, like affirmative action, have obfuscated this natural fact of male-female dynamics and have mislead you into thinking that the dynamics between males and females are equal to the dynamics between different races, ethnicities, and cultures.

In the city of Pompeii, it was found that the men had darker skin than the women because they were working outside while the women stayed home. Men are the niggas of the world. Niggas are the men of the world. Even with that, women are quickly starting to out-earn men. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/ They've already taken over higher learning institutions. Not because they're better, but because they're now able to take advantage of similar institutional benefits that whites have already been getting. I kind of touched on this in the affirmative action thread.
See note above.

The US is the most powerful country on the planet. Does this mean that US citizens are superior to non-US? Privilege and supremacy are not the same. The average white american is probably broke compared to the average indian or asian. Does this mean they are inferior?
Please define superior (and by negation inferior will also be defined), and note that superiority comes in more than one form. There is inborn superiority (physical and cognitive advantages), which is basically just genetics, and there is acquired or developed superiority, which is results-based merit.

To answer your question about the superiority of US citizens properly, we need to establish this term first.

"Class" as we think of it today is Eurocentric. Historically it has always been used to push a just world, capitalistic, racist narrative.
The first sentence is true, because Europeans introduced the concept (this is a historical fact). The second sentence is probably true. The claim needs support.

I don't think Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, or Gates are truly worthy or deserving of their position on the basis of them being "higher IQ" or somehow inherently better than anyone. Same for pretty much anyone who finds themselves in an overprivileged position. Micro or macro. This includes me. As a NEET of the US, I'm technically more privileged than the majority of people in this world. Not because I deserve it, but simply because I was born in the right place at the right time. Any personal competence on my part is secondary.
Nobody is ever deserving of anything, except what's morally and legally owed to them by their parents.

Everyone has to earn everything else. Everyone.

Has there ever been a "successful" European nation without the systematic plundering of other nations? (How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney).
Yes, Finland.

I've already given the blueprint on why. This is also why "go back to Africa" is a dumb argument, as if the claws of caucuskikes aren't sunken in deep over there as well. Black people do not exist in a vacuum, so if we are going to be responsible, it can't be one-sided. Caucuskikes who couldn't survive on their own simply invented justifications such as "civilization" to plunder and pillage from other groups. Now the pot wants to call the kettle black when the shoe is on the other foot. They also used religion, creating "slave bibles" which omitted key passages.
Yes, "go back to Africa" is a retarded statement. What's your underlying point?

In America we already know about the various "black wall streets" that existed and surpassed plenty of white communities. In Africa and the Caribbean there are analogs to this. Of course the natural response of the cave demon to this is always envy and violence. Even now there are entire black towns buried under lakes and built over.
This is just your bias showing. Don't generalize this kind of uniquely American violence to the rest of the White race.

We have a globalized economy. Every nation is dependent on some other nation somewhere. Europeans are actually the best example of this because Europe has like the least resources, including human resources. White people do not shit natural resources out of their "godly" assholes. Even now they're trying to turn Uganda into a safe haven for gays and god help any African man who has the audacity to get in their way.
Can you please explain how this globohomo degeneracy in Uganda is an example of global systemic racism against Blacks that appeals to something other than "evil Whypipo?"

I think people overlook how strong the autoimmune response is to any African attempts to self-determine. Black leaders who threaten to galvanize blacks are persecuted or assassinated. There's a long list of them in and outside the US.
Can you please give examples and show these killings are cases of global systemic racism against Blacks and not due to any other factors?

It starting to seem that blaming Whites is becoming a convenient excuse for you to scapegoat us for every calamity that befalls Blacks anywhere in the world.

"I didn't get the job. Evil Whypipo."
"Bouncer kicked me out. Evil Whypipo."
"My wife divorced me. Evil Whypipo."
"Lightning struck my car and it won't start. God is depicted as white light. Evil Whypipo."

:feelskek:

Another example is passport bros. You have a whole TikTok showing how white sexpats have been molesting children in these countries since time immemorial and engaging other degenerate activities. Yet traveling black men tired of american women's attitudes is enough to start a big fuss in various nations. And THEY are the ones accused of pedophilia and ran out of the country by feminists and cucks (Auston Holleman).
This racism is cultural, not systemic and institutional.

Even the likes of Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein...why are so many Middle Eastern countries still unstable? It must be that Arabs are bad people and violent terrorists. I mean that's what the white man told me!
No, it's because of American and European meddling. It's not a Whypipo thing at all. If it was, you wouldn't have Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in their political appointments during the height of the War on Terror, or as you would probably rather frame it: Cumskins invading Sandniggeristan.

Same thing with reparations. People have relatively little to say about the other groups who received reparations, nothing to say about reverse reparations (France, Civil War). Black reparations is enough to get random people with little to no real attachment to the issue up in arms.
Reparations are one of the most reprehensible, immoral and illogical concepts that anyone has ever entertained in the history of civilization and culture.

If you commit a crime, nobody but you is responsible for it. Not your father, not your brother, not your child, not your descendents. It is morally repugnant and abhorrent to punish one for the crimes of another, and it is worse still to reward one as compensation for the crimes of another. You are infringing on the natural rights and freedoms of an innocent party, and this is always unjust. This is morally no different than a child being born and when they become of legal adult age to send them a bill for damages for the crimes that their father committed before he or she was born, or worse, having the police come and arrest them, a judge sentence them, and then have the jailers carry them to their cell.

You would say that this is completely preposterous and absurd, and you would be correct. Reparations are basically this, but with extra steps and multiple generations apart, instead of one generation.

Even South African white racists like Stephen Mitford Goodson (Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind) confess, they just blame the jews and bankers for it. Which I don't entirely disagree with. I just don't believe Europeans are guiltless. Various whites throughout history have sold out their people in favor of jewish moneylenders. Are they "responsible" for that? Or is it the big bad jew manipulating innocent whites (who just happened to be genocidal warhawks and robber barons)?
Yes, those Whites in history are responsible for that. They're responsible for all of the genocide, slavery, and war. They are guilty.

I, however, am not, and feel zero shame or guilt for something I did not do.

Do you go to fucking Mongolia and try to blame the average person on the street for all of the nightmarish terror that Genghis Khan - history's biggest terrorist - committed? No, because that would be absolutely fucking retarded and you would get knocked the fuck out and kicked out of the country for being such an arrogant cunt.
 
A lot of good points here I couldnt read it all since I have dyslexia… anyways, everyone knows black people are less well liked in white societies and that leads to crime, drugs etc. and that leads to stereotyping, less access to jobs, prison and discrimination by the legal system and police.

My question is, Why are there white people in here. I cant really imagine any white person that wouldnt be able to get with a oberweight wide nosed ugly black chick if he tried. She would go for that just because hes white. So why dont just the so called white incels in here do that or is that considered beneath them?
 
well... aint that a testament to really just how subhuman niggers are?

they are a protected class by white americans and even despite the protection, they still suffer all around mostly because whites don't wanna date/marry blacks. Sure a few do but most whites just move as far away from niggers as they can. whites consistently do this.
 
Lol. We've found a militant blackisraelitecel. Bear with me while I work through all this.

A "pact with white people". This is just conspiratorial nonsense. I'm not watching that vid because it's too long. You're also clearly viewing the issue, as no doubt the guy in the video is, through a Yank lens. Yankland is a country infested with all manner of extreme and extremely stupid racial ideologies and beliefs.


And? The point is 100% valid. The success of East Asians and Jews completely repudiates the notion of "white supremacy" and "systemic" racism in western countries. Immigrant black groups also do much better than blacks who have lives in western countries for generations, wallowing in their victimhood and entitlement. Blacks in Yankland have enormous power. They're 13% of the population and 90% vote for one party. Which means they hold incredibly sway over one of the political parties--- the most popular political party. Blacks are the ones who defeated Bernie and elected Biden. They decided who the President would be-- mainly because he played into their racist identity politics and because he was associated with Obama.

East Asians are called a "model minority" because they are a model minority. They have high IQs, low rates of violence and crime, high educational outcomes and a host of other positive life outcomes.


Blacks are commit ~4 times the crime, so that explains most of that alleged disparity. Then you factor in the economics of blacks being poorer and having shittier lawyers and numerous other variables and that disappears. Social science is junk. Especially when you apply literally zero controls. Any bias is magnitudes lower than the actual disparity that produces the sterotypes which produce the bias-- unlike with men and gender. Do you actually think most judges are anti-black? They're all university-educated and middle class. And we know what biases they breed-- woke biases. Also, as predicted, you're fixating on Yankland. Which has by far the most punitive criminal justice system on Earth and is also the most hyper-capitalist country in the west (which exaggerates the economic aspect).


Again, a large chunk of this is economic, not racial. But you've applied absolutely no controls and just assumed race. This is anti-science, even by the laughable bar of "social science". Finding a disparity and saying "this disparity is because of x" without even trying to exclude it being because of the thousand "y"'s it could be is retarded. The police target poor areas with high rates of violent crime and drug dealing. guess which areas they are and guess what they lead to: more arrests. If police didn't target these areas they'd be accused of rayyyycism for not caring about the black victims of all the crime associated with these activities in these areas.

You haven't cited a single study with a single control. The study I cited (which I can't find anymore as it's vanished from the internet) was a legit study into the subject which applied countless controls (controls = other possibilities for the disparity)-- it concluded that there was a disparity in sentencing between men and women of 66% and between white and black of 11%.



Lol. The only racist policies in the west today are anti-white and pro-black. ie "diversity" policies. Which are ubiquitous in the US and have been for decades, and becoming more so in the rest of the west. They're also anti-Asian, of course, and East Asians get punished enormously by them. University places get handed to low IQ blacks over high IQ Asians because of these policies.


Rich people in general do nothing for poor and regular people. That's what you should be focusing on. That's where Yankland has gone very wrong. Racial division and identity politics is a grift by the rich to keep the poor divided and to stifle class action-- it's why the US doesn't have basic shit like healthcare and consumer rights.


Any such content gets heavily stifled on Youtube. They have to avoid using any "misogynistic" words and use ridiculous synonyms like "304". And Youtube isn't mainstream media, it's alternative and independent media. You get your career and life ruined for saying something "racist" about blacks or Jews, you don't get any kind of response for saying something "racist" about whites. That's a funny kind of "privilege". The truth is that the level of "privilege" probably "intersects" (to use a work term) with class-- it's impossible to measure such an abstract and complex (and largely meaningless) thing, but it's likely that in respectable/middle class areas, minorities have the advantage and in working class/guttural environments, whites have the advantage.
:bigbrain:
 
That's most probably because of the crime statistics of Natives to Blacks is comparably low.
Native Americans also got their own land and other benefits, albeit not good land. The amount of land blacks have been robbed of and/or denied is estimated to be worth many billions. I've even heard trillions when you consider the value over time.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...nd loss was due,other factors, the study said.


This is true, but it's not a supporting reason for the system privilege of Whites. Men of every race, religion, and ethnicity work to give their resources to their family. Their women, with whom they have children, are, by definition, family.

This fact of human sexual and social relations is not a systemic (institutional) privilege. This is simply how things are between men and women all around the world.

Systemic privileges in the West, like affirmative action, have obfuscated this natural fact of male-female dynamics and have mislead you into thinking that the dynamics between males and females are equal to the dynamics between different races, ethnicities, and cultures.
The point was that men have essentially been 2nd class citizens relative to women, but no one would imply that this is due to male inferiority, assuming they even recognize male disposability as true in the first place. If anything it'd probably be the opposite. "It's because men are stronger, more responsible, protective etc."

Male-female dynamics are not 1:1 the same with race but there are clear similarities. It's likely that the very same things that one would use to prove female privilege also apply to whites to some extent. Warren Farrell in The Myth of Male Power pointed out that the things which disadvantage men as a group apply even more to so-called ethnic minorities.

The reason AA, which I'm not a huge fan of, even became a thing was due to the idea of "correcting" already extant systemic privileges. But in doing this, they created new privileges for women and white women while the old privileges stayed more or less intact. That's how it works when you have a system backing you.
Please define superior (and by negation inferior will also be defined), and note that superiority comes in more than one form. There is inborn superiority (physical and cognitive advantages), which is basically just genetics, and there is acquired or developed superiority, which is results-based merit.

To answer your question about the superiority of US citizens properly, we need to establish this term first.
The poster I was replying to said blacks are "low-class" so I can only assume that he was referring to money. Also I wouldn't call it "merit". Is it "merit" when Amoranth makes another 1.5 million USD on OnlyFans this month?
Nobody is ever deserving of anything, except what's morally and legally owed to them by their parents.

Everyone has to earn everything else. Everyone.
That sounds fair until you get into the fact that some people's parents and parents parents etc were barred from owning property, otherwise stonewalled from economic opportunity, not to mention enslaved. While others basically inherent the spoils of exploitation and even less tangible benefits. This kind of applies to what you said about reparations as well.
Yes, Finland.
That might be one. But modern Finland must have some sort of reliance and trade with other nations who do engage in outright exploitation. Globalized economy.
This is just your bias showing. Don't generalize this kind of uniquely American violence to the rest of the White race.
There are other examples. King Leopold II in the Congo. Hell, I'd even say World War I, II, Opium Wars, Vietnam...etc.
Can you please explain how this globohomo degeneracy in Uganda is an example of global systemic racism against Blacks that appeals to something other than "evil Whypipo?"
It's an example of the "autoimmune" response to African self-determination that I was referring to. The fact that so many random Westerners would be invested in something as seemingly trivial as the sexuality of random Africans...but to be fair, they want globohomo everywhere.
Can you please give examples and show these killings are cases of global systemic racism against Blacks and not due to any other factors?
If the systematic killing of black leaders worldwide, many of whom were nonviolent, isn't anti-black, then what is? Of course almost no government is going to come out and say "we don't like black people". Many users on this forum can't even do that.
It starting to seem that blaming Whites is becoming a convenient excuse for you to scapegoat us for every calamity that befalls Blacks anywhere in the world.
I mean if the shoe fits. There is always a nonblack present to block any attempts of black person elevating themselves or their community. Of course some are strategically allowed to slip through the cracks. Barack Obama becoming president was used as a "see? racism isn't real!" moment for a lot of people.
This racism is cultural, not systemic and institutional.
Not an important distinction at all, lol. You act as though those things are separate. "Latin American" countries harbor lots of anti-black sentiments which translate directly to anti-black policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanqueamiento

"Blanqueamiento was enacted in national policies of many Latin American countries at the turn of the 20th century. In most cases, these policies promoted European immigration as a means to whiten the population"
No, it's because of American and European meddling. It's not a Whypipo thing at all. If it was, you wouldn't have Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in their political appointments during the height of the War on Terror, or as you would probably rather frame it: Cumskins invading Sandniggeristan.
Slapping a few black faces onto a (((Western imperialist))) agenda to avoid looking racist doesn't change the agenda. (Barack Obama)
I, however, am not, and feel zero shame or guilt for something I did not do
Do you go to fucking Mongolia and try to blame the average person on the street for all of the nightmarish terror that Genghis Khan - history's biggest terrorist - committed? No, because that would be absolutely fucking retarded and you would get knocked the fuck out and kicked out of the country for being such an arrogant cunt.
It would be nice if this kind of individualism was practical or relevant to the way society actually functions. I feel the same about prejudice towards blacks, which ALL blacks, regardless of the individual's "merit", are likely to experience.

I don't know if Genghis Khan is a good comparison. That happened many hundreds of years ago, for starters. U.S. slavery ended in 1865. Jim Crow ended in 1965. Many whites are still hardline Confederacy supporters even though the Civil War ended 158 years ago. They even have entire organizations such as "Daughters of the Confederacy".
 
based and HQ thread. the angry replies just proves OP's point. "yeah whites benefited from colonization and slavery and we still are mega privileged but you should just deal with it and go back to your shithole" :soy::foidSoy:. this is why I have no ounce of sympathy for this so called white genocide going on
 
Ban these faggots r u kidding we even have crt on a fucking incel forum that dumbass nigger black panther should be banned for life
 

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